Stolen form Cory's listserve, someone got a link??

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From: "Rushken"

Did anyone not see this?
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"We believe Y2K will be the second costliest accident in history," Gogerty claimed. (Assuming WWI was the first, then Herstatt really is the Mother of all turds.) But, "barring nuclear or major chemical failures, loss of life should be minimal in the USA," he chirped. He had perhaps meant to reassure the Committee, but one could have heard a pin drop when he finished his speech. It was all over their faces: "what the Hell is 'minimal' supposed to mean? And worse, what might 'maximum' mean, and which poor tribe is going to represent that extreme?"

It was several minutes before Co-chair Christopher Dodd (D--Conn) summoned the courage to ask.

"There is a constant rate of loss of life due to industrial accidents in the this country every day," Gogerty explained. "The Y2K bug and, let's say, the 'non-standard behaviour' of individuals around that [time] will...lead to a spike in accident rates."

"All right, we'll leave it there," Dodd replied with a nervous smile. He didn't seem to appreciate that, from Gogerty's point of view, he'd just been given the good news. .
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I don't have the URL but have the whole article on disk so can send it to anyone who wants it or post it to the list. I think it was on Y2Knewswire the other day. Sounds pretty serious, no?
Rushken
Has someone got a source link for this??

Night train

-- jes a plaigerizin ol footballer (must a lerned it at Syracuse) (nighttr@in.lane), October 23, 1999

Answers

If they're nervous at this drop-in-the-bucket toe-tipping venture, wait till they face the pitchfork-churning mobs. They have not thought this through. How they could be so blind ...

We all shoulda tied 'em down and made 'em read this Forum, start to finish, every thread -- major think tank activity here, coulda clued them in ...

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), October 23, 1999.


Exchanges between Bennet and Gogarty were classic and very informative.

-- PD (PaulDMaher@worldnet.att.com), October 23, 1999.

night train......

here's the url for the testimony before the senate committee:

http://www.senate.gov/~y2k/hearings/ 991013/

(it's interesting to note that all of the testimonies by various speakers were presented in pdf format the first day on the senate site........then ALL of the other witnesses's testimony was converted to html EXCEPT gogerty's, which remains in the pdf formatting)

i saw the last 20 minutes or so of the show on cspan, and captured it on tape

something you won't find in the pdf file of gogerty's testimony is the "back and forth" questioning and answering between gogerty and dodd ....... where dodd asks gogerty to explain "loss of life should be minimal in the USA"...........dodd asks him "how can we expect ANY loss of life in the US?"

gogerty says "i don't anticipate 10's of thousands......or i *hope* not obviously" and goes on to explain that there will surely be SOME kind of accidents occuring either directly or indirectly related to Y2K

this is about where dodd breaks in on gogerty and says "you understand our concern here.......one of the things we're trying to do......we see one of the greatest threats to this problem is panic"

so they both "agree to agree" that the law of probability should be taken into account

arrrgh!

how can we take into account the law of probability when even the most higher-ups in the info food chain are "hoping" and "not anticipating" that there won't be tens of thousands of deaths in the US, when they have TONS more access to information than we do?

-- andrea (mebsmebs@hotmail.com), October 24, 1999.


I think this is the article being quoted.

Brit firm shows US Senators 'the real turd in the Y2K punchbowl'

-- Lane Core Jr. (elcore@sgi.net), October 24, 1999.


My prediction is 50k dead from exposure combined with poor nutrition in the midwest and northeast. I'm not even going to try estimating deaths from riots and riot-control measures. 50k isn't much, really, we lose that many in traffic accidents every year. Lost that many in Viet Nam.

Our losses are going to look like a cakewalk, compared to some other countries.

-- bw (home@puget.sound), October 25, 1999.



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