With all the uncertainty about next year I thought that by putting on 20 pounds or so will actual be healthy in the event of a food shortage. 10 pounds is 40,860 calories 20 poulds 81,720 etc....And in the event of unforssen accident,fire whatever, that extra 20 will be at my side going where ever I go....

-- lindgren (Lindgren@kt.rim.or.jp), October 22, 1999

Answers

I'm Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of you...wish I wasn't....sigh...

-- Ynott (Ynott@incorruptible.com), October 22, 1999.

I can one-up that! I have a super efficient metabolism. :D I can maintain my weight on 1000 calories a day! Yep... If I were a car, I'd get 250 miles to the gallon.

-- Typhonblue (typhonblue@hotmail.com), October 22, 1999.

I understand certain doctors can now perform a surgical operation where they tie off the intestines, similar to a vasectomy but on the colon. If you have this done, and then eat twice as much as you normally would every day until the end of this year, you'll be able to make it until at least March or April of 2000 without eating anything.

-- @ (@@@.@), October 22, 1999.

Why stop at 20? Give your heart a run for its money.

-- mil (millenium@yahoo.com), October 22, 1999.

my metabolism is better than yours. i could gain weight while lying in a coma and being tube fed. now, another thought is maybe we should be fasting until 99 to get used to going without? nah. not a good idea. we may get to try that soon enough. now in all seriousness, remember, you can eat incredibly small amounts of food and survive. some fasters do it routinely for 21 days at a time.

-- tt (cuddluppy@yahoo.com), October 22, 1999.

Send me your mailing address and I will send you 20 lbs that is just laying around(my gut) and not being used. I would be happy to donate it to the cause!!!

Taz

-- Taz (Taz@aol.com), October 22, 1999.

At this late date there's not much time left.I recommend a steady diet of gorge-ing.Fat is the fast road to weight gain.Try putting some butter on your cheese.

-- zoobie (zoobiezoob@yahoo.com), October 22, 1999.

Well, this all finally makes sense. I figured you were all a bunch of lame brained fat asses. Nothing better to do than sit on your fat butts and preach gloom and doom. I have seen the light.

-- (FitandTrim@home.com), October 22, 1999.

Zoobie- butter on my cheese! you crack me up. To FitandTrim- bite my fat ass and go away.

-- (rick@work.xcom), October 22, 1999.

I'm already waaaay ahead of all of you. I still have 25-30 pounds hanging around since the birth of my "baby" who is now in Kindergarten!!!!!!! But hey, when your daughter tells you she likes you that way because you are "cuddlier" what can I say but "Awwwwww..." Seriously, I read somewhere that an extra 15 pounds for people in northern countries in the winter meant the difference between starvation and survival.

And it is very true that humans can subsist on far less food than we think. The hubby and I have already decided our daughter will NOT go without, but if necessary we will ration out the food to ourselves very very carefully.

-- Preparing (preparing@home.com), October 22, 1999.

Lessee.... do I know any of you on this thread? Nope..? Good, cause I'm gonna piss every single one of you off.

Let's talk about metabolism, both human and beast.

Lookit carnivores: ever see a fat one? (big cats, birds, canines, etc.)

Lookit herbivores: ever see a skinny one? (Rhinos, cows, hippos, etc.)

Stop eating carbohydrates and the weight will drop off of you.

Your body does not turn the fat you eat into bodily fat. Your body converts carbohydrates, particularly SUGAR, into fat.

Your million-year-old metabolism DID NOT evolve with Coca-cola, twinkies, rice, pasta and refined sugar.

The low-fat, high-carb diet is medical malpractice foisted by the AMA and the AHA because high-carb foods are much more profitable than high-protein foods.

Doing low-carb will lose you 3-4 lbs/week, and you can eat all the fat you want.

I've always been a size ~10, and when I turned thiry, my metabolism went whacko and I put on 5 sizes in six months with no change in my eating/exercise habits. I did low-carb for three months and whipped those sizes right back off.

No shit.

-- lisa (lisa@work.now), October 22, 1999.

lisa,

True about carbs, and you can also reduce your cholesterol and triglycerides with a low carb diet. We have a lot of tuna and salmon in our preps. However, we do have carbs in the form of fruits and veggies (canned). Got to have fiber and filler.

-- Mara (MaraWayne@aol.com), October 22, 1999.

snickers bar (regular size) 280 calories, 50 cents or less if you shop around.

so $146 would stock more calories in the form of snickers bars than 20 pounds of fat.

I'd much rather spend $146 and have all that chocolate than carry around an extra 20 pounds.

If Y2K is that serious, (still an open question despite polly/doomer sentiments to the contrary) it's better to be in shape.

-- Gus (y2kk@usa.net), October 22, 1999.

"Lessee.... do I know any of you on this thread? Nope..? Good, cause I'm gonna piss every single one of you off."

JEEEEEEZZZZZ, I'm REALLY pissed off!!

You're wrong and so are all diets. I eat whatever I want and remain at a perfect healthy weight. The thing you fat asses don't get is that it has nothing to do with what kind of food you eat, it has to do with getting your ass off the couch. Excercise!! Of course, most fat people don't even want to think about that, so they make up excuses about something being wrong with the food.

-- @ (@@@.@), October 22, 1999.

Boy what a thread full of sterotypes! Well I'm a fat ass! (actally, not really. Just short and stocky with more muscle then the average female) And I am healthy as an ox. (Healthy enough to go for a 3-4 mile walk a day after getting out of surgery. Exercise makes me feel better.) :P Long live the fat-asses! They shall inherit the earth.

BTW... sure you can loose weight only eating protein. It's called protein poisoning. It revs up your metabolism so fast you start consuming internal organs! Wow, what a way to loose weight.

Humans were never intended for more then a few ounces of protein a day.

-- typhonblue (typhonblue@hotmail.com), October 22, 1999.

Humans were never intended for more than a few ounces of protein a day.....

Sez who? As of when?

Alaskans (of old) didn't do carbs and they seemed to have retained enough innards to reproduce, at least........

(BTW, you go back to eating carbs after the first two weeks and then eat almost normally (sugar is ditched forever) after you get back to the size you want to be.)

-- lisa (lisa@work.now), October 22, 1999.

Yeah,

I used to have a part-time job as the Michelin Man. Then I stopped eating carburators, and just look at me now. My whole career has gone to the birds!

-- Scarecrow (ifIonly@hada.brain), October 22, 1999.

lisa

Sounds like the Atkins (sp?) diet. All meat and no carbs. Bad thing about no carbs is no energy source. Most doctors say that's the unhealthiest of all diets. Doctor told the wife the no carb diet was for extremely obese folks, and after they've lost (enough) they should go on a limited calorie (counting) diet.

Deano - who has the metabolism from hell that allows him to wear the same size britches he wore in high school - 32in, class of '78!

-- Deano (deano@luvthebeach.com), October 22, 1999.

I believe I got my information from the American College of Nutrition. But I'm probably wrong about the source. Ironically the link was posted by someone who is associated with this forum.

Besides I can't eat red-meat. It makes me violently ill. Plus it makes it more difficult for me to exercise. I feel like I have a lead brick in my stomach. Carbs give me energy w/o weighing me down. I can't eat too much fat in my diet for the same reason.

Are you innuit? Most probably you are of european descent. What you should eat all depends on your ansestry; what your ancestors evolved to eat.

As for the predator vs. herbavor thing... Both types are completely different from omnivores. Predators sleep 18-22 hours a day in order to digest the massive amounts of protien they ingest. Protien requires a lot of energy to digest. Thus the tired feeling afterwards.

If your theory is correct then americans should be getting slimmer every year. After all, they're eating more and more protien and fat. And they are certainly eating more then their ancestors did.

Boy, one would think that people facing the end of society as they know it wouldn't give a shit about their weight or any other cosmetic stu

-- Typhonblue (typhonblue@hotmail.com), October 22, 1999.

TB: it's really the sugar that does it.

Again, it's a short-term diet and you go back to eating pretty much whatever you want after you get where you wanna be.

You can have almost all vegetables, salad, cheese, eggs, peanut butter, cottage cheese, cream cheese, sour cream, full-fat dressings, strawberries, all seafood, all the butter you can down..... you just can't have sugar, pasta, bread, rice, potatoes... the carby stuff. You can even have tacos.

In fact, you can barely tell an average low-carb dinner plate from a no-diet one, except for the bread & potatoes.

It's not like you stagger around in rags gnawing on a raw leg of lamb or something.

-- lisa (lisa@work.now), October 22, 1999.

Oh, did I mention you can't have rice & beans? :)

-- lisa (lisa@work.now), October 22, 1999.

No...YOU can't have rice and beans... I can eat whatever I want, and that includes LOTS of Halloween candy. Mmmmmmm goooood!

-- @ (@@@.@), October 22, 1999.

Wanna gain lotsa weight real fast?

Hoggy Daszzzzz!

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), October 22, 1999.

From personal experience I was never able to gain weight until I started lifting weights. I gained (in my heavy duty gym days) 25 lbs. fairly quick (from 180 to 205) from 3 sets of 10-12 lifts on each body part. Start the first lift on lower weight to warm up and finish with the barely possible weight limit. I drank water between each set to buffer my muscle tissue. It is a hell of alot better to physically do things that are life sustaining with muscle tissue than fat tissue. You can certainly leverage items more easily that way and whoop ass if you need to. This is a soft world we live in and life (including you) may end up getting much harder.

-- Feller (feller@wanna.help), October 22, 1999.

Well, the jury is still out on low carbohydrate diets in some circles, but my mother's cardiologist (one of the city's most proeminent), actually promotes this as a vastly better way to healthy hearts. Is actually pretty 'adamant' about his patients watching the amounts and the types (including so called 'healthy foods' such as potatoes, rice, grains, etc.)

I started eating low carb 18 months ago, and never felt better, nor were my labs ever better. But....thought maybe I should start gradually introducing more grains, etc. I've gained weight and don't feel as energetic as I did, so I'm back to really limiting my intake of that stuff. Yes, I do eat carbs, but they're in the form of veggies.

So, it's back to canning more meat!

-- Wilferd (WilferdW@aol.com), October 22, 1999.

typhonblue,

Not true. Not trying to start a fight, but eating plenty of protein will in fact allow your body to build muscle, instead of starving the body to the point where it *does* need to feed on itself (muscles). I've really increased my muscle mass since following a low carb 'diet'. The really cool thing about building muscle is that muscle requires more calories to remain at metabolic 'stasis', so you naturally 'rev' up your metabolism - have more energy, and burn fat more efficiently.

And @, no offense, but you're wrong. Plenty of people can exercise every day and still have a problem with their weight.

-- Wilferd (WilferdW@aol.com), October 22, 1999.