INSIDER INFO---what are the implications...

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My mother is a therapist and one of her clients is [snip] Y2K [snip--per poster request--Sysop] for Florida Power and Light. Occasionally, her client will tell her things and say, "don't tell anyone that I told you because I'm not suppose to say, but...". Anyway, he has said a couple of very intriguing things over the past couple of months as I am always giving my mom a list of questions to ask, but she won't ask all of them because she thinks it is inappropriate. Two things stand out that he has told her;

1. When asked about embedded systems and how they know if they found enough of them, he said he is "praying"....I'm not kidding!!

2. He said that FP&L is planning on pulling out of the grid before the rollover, and that he is not suppose to tell anyone.

I think I read somewhere that it is illegal or something for electric companies to do that!

Anyway, I thought you all might find this info interesting.

Take Care, Jon

-- Jon Burk (j_burk@hotmail.com), October 16, 1999

Answers

Your mother must no be a very good therapist. What other cool things has she told you that she wasn't supposed to?

-- spill the beans (gossip@gossip.gossip), October 16, 1999.

If this is true, your mother should be hung. She would have cost a man his job. Irrespective of its truth, by posting it, *you* are the biggest idiot I've seen on this forum.

Zev

-- Zev Barak (zev@no.com), October 16, 1999.


DELETE!

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), October 16, 1999.

My sister, a nurse, is married to a lab tech. I have tried to talk to them for a year about Y2k and the need for preps. They weren't interested. Then she had a talk with one of her hospital patients, a honcho for the local power utility. He told her to have at least a months worth of preps. She was shocked! Her hubby just came home to tell here that his med lab just brought in two generators. Now they "get it" and are scrambling to get food. water, propane, firewood, etc.

-- Ralph Kramden (and@awaywego.com), October 16, 1999.

Client-patient confidentiality is a very
important issue. Your mom was wrong to tell
you and you were wrong to post this information.
I hope the chastisement that you are receiving
will help you understand the importance of this
issue and not deter you from making some future
post. You are a welcome member of this forum.

-- spider (spider0@usa.net), October 16, 1999.


Jon, info such as this must be posted anonymously with all names and identifiers excised.

Let the pollys screech and monkey jump. The info is valuable, but protecting confidentiality is still important.

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), October 16, 1999.


I have a friend that is also a therapist and he was telling me a few months ago that someone of his was a engineer for a power company. He was going through depression since the power company in their region was not making adequite preparations and that he once heard management say that people will just have to go cold.

Scary stuff.

-- Cantsay (worriedat@heretoo.com), October 16, 1999.


*************TROLL ALERT***************

-- troll detector (tears@inMy.fro), October 16, 1999.

I have a friend who has a cousin who has a friend that thinks he saw Elvis having breakfast at a restaurant near the Detroit Airport last February.

-- rcwhite (cw5410@netscape.net), October 16, 1999.

**********TROLL INDEED -- DELETE PLEASE*************

-- semper paratus (llmcl@usa.net), October 16, 1999.


Rcwhite, how ridiculous can you get! Elvis never gets up before noon and wouldnt be caught dead in Detroit.

-- TCB (as@usual.com), October 16, 1999.

the guys mother should NOT be hung... in fact, she cannot be hung... only men can be hung, however she can be hanged!!1

-- jeremiah (braponspdetroit@hotmail.com), October 16, 1999.

Maybe I'm missing something here. Whenever someone posts an anonymous "insider" report, the pollys jump in and cry foul because the poster doesn't name names. I agree that this poster crossed the line in revealing names obtained in a protected relationship where confidentiality is implicit, but why does that make the poster a troll? If the report is true, I don't think it would be a show-stopper, anyway. No fault in praying...for those so inclined, I hope they are praying that they've found everything.

-- (RUOK@yesiam.com), October 16, 1999.

* * * 19991016 Saturday

Discretion is usually the better part of valor!

In the Y2K end-game, however, at what point does valor weigh enough for the "Dilbert" management dolts to disclose dire Y2K consequences that will directly affect the health and safety of millions and millions of--otherwise--innocent victims to-be?

You know, it's REALLY depressing! The prevailing corporate-statist establishment is guilty of the basest moral values toward humanity! Only that there be justice on the other side?

We're in deeper doo-doo than Y2K!

Regards, Bob Mangus

* * *

-- Robert Mangus (rmangus1@yahoo.com), October 16, 1999.


zev, take a look at your post. NOW you have seen a bigger idiot.

-- jr (ataecho@aol.com), October 16, 1999.


Shame on your mother for breaching patient confidentiality.

Shame on you for trying to get her to 'pump him' for additional information. And give yourself another demerit for posting this as you did.

Think about it, Jon. If you were in that fellow's shoes, would you think it a good thing that your therapist discussed your private conversations with her son? And how would you feel if her son posted the results of several of the conversations?

Probably like the faith had been breeched.

It was.

-- Wilferd (WilferdW@aol.com), October 16, 1999.


hey wait a minute

who put this line in the original message:"...[snip--per poster request--Sysop] ...

a moderator from *this* forum?

the Sysop of the originating ISP?

"Jon " the person who posted it, to make it "appear" like it was scrubbed to preserve privacy?

Was this post sent "privately" to the TBY2K forum and then "scrubbed"?

or is it just a troll, as seems so obvious?

-- plonk! (realaddress@hotmail.com), October 16, 1999.


There are several issues here it seems. first and formost, is that of a breach of patient-therapist confidentiality- a real no-no- . Secondly- if, given this info were provided to you by your mom, with the intent of keeping others from harm, a more proper way to post it would have been to delete any mention of the state or Power company name. Yes- the pollies will cry and yell that no identification was given, how can it be checked, etc- so what?

Or alternatively, why couldn't you contact one of the forum moderaters privately via e-mail, and explain the situation. Perhaps your info could have been posted without any identifying info with a note from the mods. stating that the identifying details had been left out to protect the confidence of the employee, but that they had been in fact provided the info and believed it to be reliable or something to that effect??

-- farmer (hillsidefarm@drbs.com), October 16, 1999.


I don't understand the objections to this post. The employee's name was not mentioned. People write books all the time about their patients, and there is no problem as long as they are not identified. FPL is a big company and provides my electrical service. I obviously hope that they are prepared.

-- Dave (dannco@hotmail.com), October 16, 1999.

Where were all you who are complaining about breach of confidentiaity and conflict of intrest when Klinton was elected the second time, or when he should have been impeached. We have no idea how much spin was put on the story to protect the inocent . This thearapist could be some guy from Omaha and the client a female ingineer from Iowa. If your all so worried about truth and trolls shut your dam TV,s off . Give us all a break

-- (freeman@interx.net), October 16, 1999.

Plonk,

At the request of the poster, on consultation with one of us, one of us removed the identifying office and position, which would have been tantamount to naming the individual and COMPLETELY breaking confidentiality.

Chuck, Sysop #3

-- Chuck, a night driver (rienzoo@en.com), October 16, 1999.


thank you Chuck.

(trust, but verify)

-- plonk! (realaddress@hotmail.com), October 16, 1999.


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