LAS VEGAS will gave hundreds of thousands of visitors this New Years....

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Hello all!

I'm fairly new to this board, but I've been keeping track of the Y2K scene since mid 1998. I've read just about everything I could find on the net over that time period, and I'm a member of Y2Knewswire.com (which kicks ass BTW).

I just moved to VEGAS in the last 4 months...had no choice unfortunately. This is the #1 growing city in the US at a rate of somewhere around 5000 people per month. Some of you have probably read the news recently about the big DMV software problem here that has caused a huge backlog and 4 - 8 hour waits for something as simple as getting your drivers license. ( I experienced it first hand and 4 - 8 hours is no exaggeration.)

I'm trying to get a clear picture of what would happen in Vegas in the event of Medium - Worst case scenario. Someone told me that 250,000 people came here just for LABOR DAY WEEKEND this year! I'm trying to get some statistics on New Years, but I'm certain its not going to be a pretty number. You wouldn't believe the amount of people who just drive here on the weekends from LA. Enough to have solid traffic from VEGAS to LA every Sunday night from what I've seen.

I'm sure Vegas is a world wide destination for people looking for a good time this New years. I only live about 10 minutes from the strip (by car) so of course I have more than a few worries, which also enticed me to purchase a shotgun. I read a good article at Y2Knewswire.com last year about inner city problems in such an event, but Vegas is a unique situation given all of the non-residents that will be here

I want people to help me paint a picture here so that I can talk to others in my community. Maybe someone who understands the dynamics of human behavior in this situation.

I don't need to hear from people that it's "too late" or whatever. I have figured out a way to spread the word without drawing attention to myself and ANY preperation is good preperation, so lets just leave it at that. I welcome your helpful comments.

thanks!

-- Mad Max (me@yourmomshouse.fun), October 11, 1999

Answers

We dicussed Vegas here about two-three months ago re:the water situation. With the sheer numbers of people there, and if it goes anywhere med to lrg, vegas is a dead land waiting to dry up. Figure you live in the middle of the desert, right? Figure 80% of the water comes from somewhere else, right? Firgure all that, add a whole shmear of tourists, subtract electricity for the pumps, what does that equal? a Wasteland... My advice...bail on Vegas if it looks like it'll be bad. Take your vacation to somewhere else...

-- Billy Boy (Rakkasan@Yahoo.com), October 11, 1999.

Mad Max, Please contact me by e-mail. I live in Las Vegas and can provide you with a lot of this information.

-- Lynn Ratcliffe (mcgrew@ntr.net), October 11, 1999.

Actually....Lake MEAD is about 30 minute drive from my home...that's where we get our water...and if im not mistaken, We actually sell some water to parts of California and other states. Lake MEAD is HUGE!

We do however have every other thing on earth brought in by trucks, so part of your point is valid.

-- Cory Hill (coryh@strategic-services.net), October 11, 1999.


Lynn,

Would you be able to give any general information here on the thread, for those of us who may have relatives in Las Vegas?

My 80 year old mother has lived there for 30 plus years and does/will not budge, so anything you've heard about awareness there, utilities, planned shelter locations, etc. would be so helpful.

Thanks.

-- Scat (sgcatique@webtv.net), October 11, 1999.


I sent him an email, but no response yet...he might be busy. If i get them before he posts, i will try to pass olong the info.....

-- Cory Hill (coryh@strategic-services.net), October 11, 1999.


Here is the info that was passed to me....CHECK OUT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE EXPECTED TO COME HERE..HOLY SHIT!!

ill try to get more info and post it to this thread!

-- Cory Hill (coryh@strategic-services.net), October 11, 1999.


Hmm...maybe i should go ahead and post the info now......

ELECTRIC

Nevada power says that they will be compliant sometime during November 1999. They also said that they have the ability to divert all power from Hoover Dam to Las Vegas. LOL Should be interesting....invaded by Arizona, California and Utah....LOL Someone asked that question at one of the y2k meetings.

WATER

Plenty of water available in Lake Mead. Electricity required to pump water except in the oldest parts of Las Vegas where they use coal slurry powered generators. The coal slurry pipeline comes across Northwestern Arizona. Where it comes from before that, I don't know. Water will be stored in reservoirs at summer level. According to the water department, there would be 7 days of water at 50% capacity.....water will go 10 -14 days with conservation.

GAS

Dependent on pipelines from Texas.

All casinos are compliant.

The two biggest problems that I see are the ease with which the city could be sealed off and the influx of tourists to celebrate the New Year. There are really only 4 roads in and out - I 15 (North and South) and I 95 (North and South).

http://www.y2k-lasvegas.com/

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Las Vegas is expecting between 750,000 and 1,000,000 people for New Year's Eve. There is a group meeting here in Las Vegas. Look on the URL under Events/ Public Forums....they meet at Towbin Dodge

-- Cory Hill (coryh@strategic-services.net), October 11, 1999.


That website seems to have been abandoned in April...so its not much good for info. I will keep looking for more Vegas y2K sites....

-- Cory Hill (coryh@strategic-services.net), October 11, 1999.

Somehow I think that if I lived in Vegas, I would have plans to go to Caliente or Mesquite for New Years this year. Heck, maybe even someplace like Tonapah rather than face the local population AND likely somewhere near half a million visitors.

I don't think that there's enough food on-hand in Vegas for three days for that many folks and I wouldn't want to be there to find out. Power and water are a very good possibilty for Vegas, but food is something that isn't produced or controlled locally.

WW

-- Wildweasel (vtmldm@epix.net), October 11, 1999.


Moved out of Vegas end of last year. When the TSHTF that city will be screwed. Even a modest downturn in the economy will cause the "house of cards" (pun intended) to come down. The city is overbuilt for anything but a booming economy. Throw in some cash withdrawl limits, and it's really toast.

Nevada Power buys 45% of its power. What if it's not for sale for a while? At a meeting last October, the one thing Nev.Pwr. said was that there was no way to conduct integrated testing. All systems would have to tested (if they had time) separately. What will happen when these systems all have to talk to each other is the $64 question.

-- Bill (bill@tinfoil.com), October 11, 1999.



Las Vegas is doomed. When the people leave, Las Vegas will be a ghost town! It has no commerce what so ever! Besides that it is in the middle of the desert! Las Vegas is doomed! Get out now while you can!

-- freddie (freddie@thefreeloader.com), October 11, 1999.

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