Milne: Senator Bennett Will 'Almost certainly" Not Be Lynched

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Subject:Senator Bennett Will 'Almost certainly" Not Be Lynched
Date:1999/10/09
Author:Paul Milne <fedinfo@halifax.com>
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Hunting for the Truth from the NERC
 
By Dave Lundsford October 8, 1999
 
With an open mind, logic, and common sense, deciphering what Robert Bennett and other government officials say regarding Y2K readiness can be a rather bleak experience. Nonetheless, we can't say that civilization is about to crumble, nor can we say all is ok.
 
To fully understand Y2K requires more time than most people are willing to dedicate, including the press. Slightly in their defense, if one doesn't have the capacity to understand the technical mechanics of the problem, how on earth can they ask an educated question? In the media's world where one is constantly surrounded by his or her peers, God forbid they look stupid! Many fear that the response to one of their questions will dance circles around them and sail overhead never to be grasped by an inferior mortal. For a reporter, that's like a football player running the wrong way for a touchdown.
 
Many concerned and highly experienced computer programmers have made lists of qualified questions for you and the reporters as well as I to ask. This is why I can't wholeheartedly defend them. People have tried to help them get to the bottom of things and they ignored their assistance. With that said, let me give an example of how anyone can decipher the truth with the tools of common sense, logic, a little understanding of the problem and most of all an open mind. Recently I read the following:
 
"U. S. Senate Y2K Committee Chairman Robert Bennett (R-Utah) has criticized electric utilities for failing to disclose Y2K readiness information and wants laggards publicly exposed.(He) said 75% of the 3,200 (2,400) electric utilities don't routinely share information about their Y2K readiness."
 
What this really means is quite simple: with about 80 plus days to go, Mr. Bennett has no idea what the status of those 2,400 electric utilities is. That averages out to 48 per state. Before I go on, think about it. What is the population and the geographical size of each of those 2,400 regions? (A little background: in actuality there are more than 7,800 facilities nationwide; only 3,200 are associated with NERC's reporting; as for the remaining 4,600 they are either small facilities or they're not associated w/NERC or both. I doubt any of the 2,400 mentioned above is a small facility.)
"Despite that concern, Bennett said a prolonged nationwide blackout will almost certainly not occur because of the efforts.to ensure that the national power grid works. But local and regional outages are possible if smaller utilities aren't prepared."
 
In college I made an effort to get straight A's, but it never happened. My parents would have been nuts to assure their friends that it almost certainly was going to happen. The key word in the above statement was "prolonged," did you catch it? How long is prolonged? Is it one year? Twenty years? Certainly prolonged does not imply four to seven days. That's what FEMA and the Red Cross is recommending you prepare yourself for in the event of power outages and they too do not believe in a prolonged nationwide outage. What no government official is saying is that a nationwide blackout for 4-7 days can very well be the beginning of the worst case scenarios no one believes or wants to think is possible.
 
Bennett continues to say now that local and regional outages are possible if smaller utilities are not prepared. The fact is, we have 800 electric utilities that apparently practice disclosure. This says nothing about their degree of readiness, only that they'll talk or send a generic statement given to them first by the North American Electric Reliability Council (NERC) (Mike Adams of Y2kNewswire already proved NERC provides these for them.). There are 2,400 electric facilities Bennett refers to as "Laggards" and wants to expose. Common sense and logic dictate that Bennett's displeasure with these 2,400 tells me they are not small. The same rationale says that the small ones are part of the missing group of 4,600. It doesn't take much to conclude that of the 2,400, the majority, if not all, are in heavily populated areas or in other ways critical to the overall infrastructure.
 
The article went on to say that the NERC refuses to release the names of the 2,400 companies even at Bennett's request. An NERC spokesperson asked: "Is something like this being asked of all the other infrastructures?" That brings back memories of childhood days at the supper table when a sibling would say: "Billy didn't eat his peas, how come I have to?" NERC needs to grow up. If the phone companies are not asked, it is not quite the same. If the phone companies fail but the power stays on, it's manageable; however if the power goes down little works!
 
"In any event, less than one half of 1% of all electric utilities are not Y2K ready.based on information from various utility trade groups...I don't think anyone can find fault with all the work the utility industry has done."
 
What does he mean when he says "In any event"? After what we've covered, he now pulls out a figure so safe that it could be considered an insult to our intelligence (Remember he has info on only 800 facilities. 800 X .5% = 4) but legally speaking, the figure is absolutely right. The problem is that in actuality it's also much higher. Example: If 70 out of 100 people are female and I said less than 65% are male am I right? Yes, but I'm implying it's a majority when it's much less. Same principle here, if 75% are actually not Y2K ready and he claims .5% of all of them are not Y2K ready the figure is still right, however inaccurate.
 
The next comment is that he doesn't think anyone can find fault with all the work the utility industry has done. For starters they could have begun 10 years ago and today it would be a non-issue. Of course if the power goes down and the problems mount and life as we know it today is gone, I really believe there will be those that fault the utility industry among others, which leads to this concluding comment:
 
"Most utilities are reluctant to publicly list Y2K status. 'A lot of lawyers are concerned about liability."
 
Telling the truth is no longer a virtue, it is simply a legal liability.
 
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The fact of the matter is that these bozos have NO idea at all about the ACTUAL state of the industry.
 
And when the shit hits the fan, everyone will be oh so surprised.  Who'da thunk it?
Why, they assured us things wuz hunky dory.
 
No skin off my nose.
 
 
http://www.wbn.com/y2ktimebomb/Industry/Utilities/lunds9940.htm
 
--
Paul Milne
"If you live within 5 miles of a 7-11, you're toast"



-- a (a@a.a), October 10, 1999

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a@a.a apparently thinks the following words are the thoughts of a genius

The fact of the matter is that these bozos have NO idea at all about the ACTUAL state of the industry. And when the shit hits the fan, everyone will be oh so surprised. Who'da thunk it? Why, they assured us things wuz hunky dory.

To this I respond, please quit wasting our time. No skin off my nose. http://www.wbn.com/y2ktimebomb/Industry/Utilities/lunds9940.htm -- Paul Milne "If you live within 5 miles of a 7-11, you're toast"

-- Can't Believe It (why@post.this?), October 10, 1999.


Can't Believe It

Don't believe it. Your stupid comments are an insult to your own intelligence, if that's possible.

-- Dog Gone (layinglow@rollover.now), October 10, 1999.


Darn.

-- Can't Believe It (waste@of.time), October 10, 1999.

"Despite that concern, Bennett said a prolonged nationwide blackout will almost certainly not occur because of the efforts to ensure that the national power grid works. But local and regional outages are possible if smaller utilities aren't prepared."

Can't Believe It, I don't know why Paul posts this stuff. But I know why I read what he posts. I read it because Paul's sharp style, pointed analysis, and inclusion of quotes like the above cut through the ubiquitous, hypnotic droning that permeates Oblivia, to which so many have so deeply succumbed. Why do YOU read his posts? So you can prove his point with your responses? Clever of you.

-- Faith Weaver (suzsolutions@yahoo.com), October 10, 1999.


CantBelieveIt:

Devastating critique! Just think how effective you would be if you actually had some facts. What is it with you polly morons? I'm neutral about Milne, but you polly idiots almost never bring facts to the table, do you? ROFL.

-- b (b@b.com), October 10, 1999.



Regardless of all the chatter, in this case Mr. Milne is correct. The Senators don't know the state of the industry. No one does. Crossing our fingers might help keep the electrons flowing--at least as much as anything.

-- Mara Wayne (MaraWayne@aol.com), October 10, 1999.

Paul posts this:

The fact of the matter is that these bozos have NO idea at all about the ACTUAL state of the industry. And when the shit hits the fan, everyone will be oh so surprised. Who'da thunk it? Why, they assured us things wuz hunky dory. No skin off my nose.

How in the hell does this prove that TSHTF in January? Ive read hundreds of posts from Mr. Milne and 98% of them go something like this,

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Remediation failed, stupid pollies are all going to die. Good riddance.

Then all the doomers go,

He is so right. Such insight.

Thank god the rest of the worlds population thinks much better than your average doomlit.

-- Rational (paul@theremotecontroldoomer.com), October 10, 1999.


I'd be tickled to know they're THINKING at all. It has thus far been proven they aren't.

Apparently, Rational has joined their club.

(just nod your heads and ignore the putz)

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), October 10, 1999.


Most people don't think everyone is out to get them, most people don't think the NWO is spying on them, most people don't think sightings.com is a news source, most people don't think Paul Milne is right, most people don't think the gov't will round up every single person in the US into concentration camps, most people don't think shooting everyone because they looked at you wrong is fine and dandy.

Or to put it in a nice box, most people are not paranoid and don't follow the teachings of a pig farmer. Or live off the gov't like some of the doomlit leaders do. Or preach the end of the world in three months, but be sure to get a 2 year subscription to their magazine.

-- Rational (justthefacts@toomuchfordoomlits.com), October 10, 1999.


Rational: That's BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

-- a (a@a.a), October 10, 1999.


Hey Rational,

Man (person, woymn)) you look cold!. Put those clothes back on! Oh, I see, you like to be naked! Dead man, person, woymn, walking!

Most people believe(d)that the earth is flat, most people believe(d) the "sun goes round the earth", most people believe(d) that the colonies should not seek independence from England.

However, Rational, you belive that your clothes are oh so beautiful.

Deo Vindice, BR

-- brother rat (rldabney@usa.net), October 10, 1999.


"Almost certainly" erases himself from legal liability. He is carefully making sure not to commite himself with that evaluation.

"Certainly prolonged does not imply four to seven days." I agree but the people who died in the last heat wave might beg to differ.

Speaking of those deceased people, did you catch the media coverage of the trucks being loaded with the occupied body bags? They just slung em all up into it like sacks of taters. I've sort of concluded that is similar to what we'll witness during Y2K. It's rather frightening and surreal. I don't think I am going to like Y2K very much. I stockpiled California wines in case I feel a pressing need not to recall in detail something I witness.

I so hope nothing permament happens. Outages even if very prolonged have light at the end of the tunnel. My own built in defense to threat wants to say, "Ooh those grids will be okay, hey, we were bombing the Serbs' and the companies could bring the power back up in a short time!" And also, "Now be inspired, just look at Iraq, it has sewage flowing down the streets, no safe drinking water, no food, and its technology is in total collapse and most of them are surviving!" My self defense to threat skips over North Korea with its canibalism as having a void of any reassurances. It also skips over Indonesia were the people resorted to chopping off the heads of anyone "different" in their economic frustration.

-- Paula (chowbabe@pacbell.net), October 11, 1999.


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