After reading yet more propoganda against the doomer mentality, a thought occurred. WHY would anyone, with a shred of grey matter, dismiss Y2K outright? Well, there is always a vested interest, BUT, these vested interests are themselves built on illusion, falsehood and deceit. For example, the banks have a vested interest in keeping their hands on our money, or (boo hoo) they will fail. What exactly will fail? A fractional reserve system that is built on thin air. What else would fail? Would an organic farm fail? Not likely. Would anything that is truly valuable, TRULY, fail? Will the oceans fail. Will it stop raining. Will the sun rise on Jan 2? Will the butter lettuce fail to go to seed? Will the seagull even notice, or the bluejay? An argument against Y2K is basically a rebuttle laced with self-interest. Its transparent....

Owl

-- owl (e@ws.com), September 29, 1999

Answers

Well put. Part of the answer, I think, is that some people feel they are either psychic, immune because of their wealth - or even God Himself. They know what can (can't) happen, unlike you or me.

-- Y2KGardener (gardens@bigisland.net), September 29, 1999.

I give up: what on earth is butter lettuce?

-- Ed Yourdon (HumptyDumptyY2K@yourdon.com), September 29, 1999.

>> I give up: what on earth is butter lettuce? <<

It is a particularly tender variant of green leaf lettuce.

-- Brian McLaughlin (brianm@ims.com), September 29, 1999.

And delicious, a treat in salads. *adding to shopping list*

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), September 29, 1999.

Butter lettuce is light green, tightly packed, small leaf lettuce. Very tender, easy to grow. Looks like a flower.

-- Casey DeFranco (caseyd@silcom.com), September 29, 1999.

I bought some once and was disappointed that it didn't taste like butter. As a matter of fact, it didn't taste like anything special. If you plan to buy some, purchase a different type lettuce to go along with it.

-- buttercup (buttercup@buttercuppp.xcom), September 29, 1999.

Ed, it sounds like you and I eat at the same places. That being the case allow me to share my favorite "bachelor salad." Cut a head of iceberg lettuce into quarters. Hold quarter head in left hand, pour favorite dressing with right hand. Eat standing at the sink. Use sleeve as napkin.

-- smfdoc (smfdoc@aol.com), September 29, 1999.

And girls, you can always use butter lettuce in a pinch if there is no mud to wrestle in, or if you don't have much time to clean up afterwards. (Look for this to appear in an upcoming edition of Heloise's Hints.)

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.cum), September 30, 1999.

Well then, since you put it that way!!! Let it rain!! No, wait, let it POUR! Let's wipe the slate and start over!

Seriously, I appreciate the perspective, I think it's a very valid one. Nothing that has true instrinsic value is going to fail at all, is it? Only these man made artificial structures that we call culture, society, economies, industries, medicine and oh, so much more is at risk. I'm not being glib here - there is truly a limited instrinsic value in anything mankind has done. We have taken God out of our homes and out of our institutions and now we think we've got the world by the balls and nothing can happen... It's not just a God question either, but a certain kind of arrogance that mankind seems to develop that he can "disconnect" himself from his surrounding and the creation about him and can determine his own destiny...

Whatever happens, you can be sure we are getting what we justly deserve. Neither God nor Nature or whatever cosmic force you believe in is going to always turn the other cheek to our misbehaviour.

-- Ray (shusters@montanasky.net), September 30, 1999.

LOL King of Spain...I truly hope that post Y2K all the ladies on this forum get to have one great big mud wrestle with you all at once. I'll be the closest one to you with the big smile!

-- Debi (LongTimeLurker@shy.com), September 30, 1999.

>LOL King of Spain...I truly hope that post Y2K all the ladies on this >forum get to have one great big mud wrestle with you all at once. >I'll be the closest one to you with the big smile!

>-- Debi (LongTimeLurker@shy.com), September 30, 1999.

Debi, jello-wrestling is much more fun and much tastier... we'll need buckets of whip cream however....

Whitney

-- Whitney (y2kwhit@aol.com), October 06, 1999.

In the matter of Y2K and logic...shift happens! And cultural/world systems are by definition (dynamic whole systems) tenuously and fragilly poised/placed at all times. It is illogical to presume that status quo/stasis goes on forever as is ad eternam. Chaos theories disagree.

As to greens for salad,...far more interesting topic, in my never humble opinion....shoot for growing wide variety of greens and herb for fresh salads...easy, easy...green onions, (scallions) will grow almost anywhere...in warmer climes this can be done year 'round. I love fresh mustard and kale in salad with little (gulp) Iceberg, which is tough to grow...butter lettuce is wonderful, but try some romaine, and endive too, add fresh parsley, (not to be confused with parsing) and chives. The quickest from your garden to the bowl the better.

-- Donna (moment@pacbell.net), October 06, 1999.