For Disabled and Frail Elderly Preparers

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Preparedness groups and other types of intentional communities are not without their controversy, but for folks who may have difficulty doing all their preps on their own, it may be the only way to go.

Here's a link to a nationwide list of such groups, devided by state:

http://www.webpal.org/list.htm

I scanned thru the list for my state, and it looks as if it's mostly church oriented groups, which hopefully means you can approach them with a higher level of trust. All the ones I saw had an e-mail address, so you can contact them first, to find out if it's the right group for you.

-- Bokonon (bok0non@my-Deja.com), September 08, 1999

Answers

Hi, Bokonon!...I've clicked this link several times, and it takes me to Greenspun's LUSENET site, not the webpals.org. What's up?

Ray in OKC, OK

-- Ray (doesnotwork@for.me), September 08, 1999.


Let's try this again:

http://www.webpal.org/list.htm

Time for me to go back for a refresher course in Html, it appears. This should work now.

-- Bokonon (
bok0non@my-Deja.com), September 08, 1999.


Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh! Link Off!

-- Bokonon (bok0non@my-Deja.com), September 08, 1999.

Bokonon,

The value of this site will depend entirely on the level of awareness in one's state or area of that state. I've been going to it for 6 months and there have been no changes or additions for my state and none for the state my elderly mother lives in. The one site near me that I did contact is down most of the time and totally inactive. It proved to be the one run by the "team leader" of my state, which translated into a group of under a dozen who gave up holding meetings and went underground because of lack of any interest or awareness in the city.

The "retreats" I have come across in the states I looked at here are run by some very weird (in my view) cults, and there is no way I'm even going to register my email addy at this site. Maybe some states have much better groups. Maybe not. I advised my mother to go to a Red Cross shelter after what I found here, if disruptions outlast the boxes of preps my sis and I have sent her. (She's very far away and won't leave.)

I have "networked" myself to death and just won't do it anymore. It resulted in several contacts I wish I hadn't made and one bad scare. This listing was "too little" before and is now "too late" as well. You cannot establish trust between strangers in the time that is left.

For those who are already in some church, make that church your group whether they are now aware/willing to be or not. For those who are in some trusted organization, make that organization your group. For those who have neither, I have no answers. Maybe someone else does.

The closer it gets, the more I believe that a group of "same old people" you've known for a while then is more important than a group of unknown but "like-minded" people now. My own trust, always difficult for me to place, is becoming impossible now.

Be careful.

-- Scat (sgcatique@webtv.net), September 08, 1999.


I guess I qualify for the first, and my 71 yr old mother for the second.

I have insisted both my mother and I prepare as best we can. We will begin the year together at our house and only if it is safe will she return to her home. I have included her in my preps and her preps are backup for ours.

Anyone who has a disability or is a elder with frailty, IMHO, it is important to consider who you can stay with and not be alone. That family member can look wonderful in an emergency. Y2K presents an emergency.

I think it is important for everyone GI continuing to prepare. Those preparations of a person with disability or elder with fraily can look wonderful to a family member in an emergency.

From a spiritual place, I can't prepare only for myself and husband. I have to prepare for my frail mother and a neighbor or two. IMHO, preparing with the ability to share, even sharing one box of crackers with a preselected family member or neighbor in need, helps me remember we are all in this together, sink or swim. Even if I'm one who does not make it (likely if things are bad) my preps will help someone. That's important to me..

-- Leslie (***@***.net), September 08, 1999.



In my condo development are many long-retired owners, and two of them have GId. The lovely lady upstairs, who brought me meals when I was unemployed last year is definitely on my list of people to help. But a suggestion I'd like to pass along to those of you who know frail or disabled persons is this: offer to take them shopping for their preps. I will be taking this woman to WalMart for her lantern and cookstove, propane and other items. I also have told her I will take her to Price Costco and show her what she needs. She is using lists of items I printed from this forum, to see what she wants to stock. You can also think about inviting someone with these special needs to share your space if it becomes too frightening for them to be alone. Thank all of you, particularly Stan's 14 Day Preps, for these lists I keep distributing, by the way.

-- Elaine Seavey (Gods1sheep@aol.com), September 09, 1999.

Elaine - You and Faith Weaver always have such uplifting, useful comments!

I located a Flyer red wagon and a toboggan at a yard sale. I will use one or the other (depending on whether the roads have been plowed) to offer a Meals-On-Wheels service to the housebound in my neighborhood. It will allow me to transport a jug of water, food, camping stove, battery lantern, and whatever other supplies seem appropriate, to ensure they have a hot meal and other small necessities. The toboggan could also be used to relocate someone.

-- Brooks (brooksbie@hotmail.com), September 09, 1999.


Elaine, Brooks,

Excellent suggestions; helping people with disability and the frail elderly prepare. It would be empowering for them to know how they might prepare also, so they feel a sense of control over their lives. Offering a ride and conversing with them on what to purchase with they making the decision; having them use the phone to find out what a store offers and where is the best price; thinking of ways they can be a help to you in return (my gallows humor keeps my husband from getting all too serious...)

Wonderful to hear your compassion. You will get their compassion in return. Blessings to both of you.

-- Leslie (***@***.net), September 09, 1999.


From: Y2K, ` la Carte by Dancr near Monterey, California

There's a thread on Preps for the Disabled on the sister Preparations Forum.

-- Dancr (addy.available@my.webpage), September 10, 1999.


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