OT: FEC Lists Hillary as Presidential Candidate

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Tuesday August 31, 6:00 PM

Federal Election Commission Lists Hillary as Presidential Candidate

Some Clintonologists like Dick Morris have doubted whether Hillary Rodham Clinton will actually run for the Senate. After all, being just a senator would be a step down after serving as co-president for eight years.

Newsweek had reported some years ago that White House operatives openly talked of 12 years for Clinton -- eight for Bill and four for Hillary.

Such an idea would have been preposterous after Hillary's health care debacle. Since then, Hillary has had a metamorphosis of sorts. Polls even show she could run and win in New York state against a popular New York mayor, Rudy Giuliani.

Just maybe, Hillary and friends are thinking once again: why not the presidency?

So Inside Cover was not surprised when we clicked on the Federal Election Commission's Web site at www.fec.gov, and typed the name "Clinton" in the search box for reports made by candidates or by committees. Both listed Hillary Clinton as a Senate candidate in New York. Both searches also indicated Hillary as a candidate for the presidency in the year 2000. Check it yourself if you don't believe us.

We called the FEC and said, "What gives?"

Yes, the FEC spokesperson told us, a committee was formed independently of Hillary, by a group called "People for American Leadership." One FEC form identifies the committee's treasurer as Thomas B. McMullen. The form states the group has a bank account at Crestar Bank in Washington.

The FEC spokesperson said the group recently made an application to terminate the committee.

Still, the listing raises some intriguing scenarios.

Hillary is now a Senate candidate with plans to raise between $20 million and $30 million. She is also going through the trouble of building a campaign staff. Under federal election law, it's perfectly legal for a candidate for one federal office to change their mind and run for another federal office. Hillary could decide tomorrow to run for president, shifting her campaign war chest and putting her staff into high gear for New Hampshire.

Of course, there is one little problem: Al Gore. Already Hillary and Bill have trampled on Gore's fundraising network, and she has been sapping his campaign of P.R. with her own forays into New York. Why not throw him overboard altogether?

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-- Homer Beanfang (Bats@inbellfry.com), September 01, 1999

Answers

So here's a good question for you. If Hillary was elected president, and she lied about having an affair with a 21 year old White House intern, do you think the Republicans would try to impeach her?

-- a (a@a.a), September 01, 1999.

Taking Gore out of it might be the most constructive thing she's done. Can't really feature him as President. A Calvin Coolidge clone who talks. Can't say I care much for the Republican candidate(s) either.

The only honest guy I know of is not about to run -- C. Everett Koop, the former Surgeon-general. Pity.

-- Tom Carey (tomcarey@mindspring.com), September 01, 1999.


Wait a minute.

Look carefully. She is listed by "Type" and "Desig(nation)" as "O" and "O". That does not appear on the key, but it could mean that Hillary was written in by some people who just want her to be president (thereby proving themselves to be idiots) and she doesn't know anything about it.

The following from http://herndon1.sdrdc.com/cgi-bin/fecimg/

Presented by the Federal Election Commission

Committees that match specified criteria:

Candidate Com. ID Committee Name City St Party Des Type State Office

C00253690 CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT INC LITTLE ROC AR DEM A P C00268722 CLINTON/GORE '92 GENERAL ELECTION C LITTLE ROC AR DEM A P 00 President C00272161 CLINTON/GORE '92 COMMITTEE LITTLE ROC AR DEM A P 00 President C00302265 CLINTON/GORE '96 PRIMARY COMMITTEE WASHINGTON DC DEM A P 00 President C00305938 CLINTON/GORE '96 GEN ELECTION LEGAL WASHINGTON DC A P 00 President C00321414 CLINTON/GORE '96 GENERAL COMMITTEE WASHINGTON DC DEM P P 00 President C00148635 CLINTON TOWNSHIP DEMOCRATIC CLUB FE CLINTON TO MI Q C00197434 CLINTON MILLS' POLITICAL ACTION COM COLUMBIA SC U Q C00313643 CLINTON/GORE - OAKLAND HIGHLAND MI U I C00322214 CITIZENS FOR CLINTON/GORE MIAMI FL U I C00322917 FRIENDS OF ROBYN I STEVENS FOR CLIN OWINGS MIL MD DEM U D C00323568 VIETNAMESE AMERICAN CLINTON/GORE & GARDEN GRO CA U I C00324723 LANCASTER COUNTY CITIZENS FOR CLINT LANCASTER PA U I P20000642 CLINTON, WILLIAM JEFFERSON WASHINGTON DC DEM 9 6 00 President C00278663 SOUTHEAST CLINTON/GORE CAMPAIGN HUNTINGTON CA U I C00275602 VIETNAMESE AMERICAN COMMITTEE FOR C WESTMINSTE CA U I C00275594 '92 CAMPAIGN FOR CLINTON COMMITTEE BLACKSBURG VA U I C00272872 STUDENTS FOR CLINTON JOLIET IL U I P00003392 CLINTON, HILLARY RODHAM WASHINGTON DC DEM 0 0 00 President C00278739 GEORGIA JEWS FOR CLINTON/GORE ATLANTA GA U I C00300384 DC2: DUMP CLINTON DEMOCRATIC COALIT GAINESVILL FL UNK U I

Total of 21 Committee(s) matched criteria

TRY A: NEW SEARCH NEW ADVANCED SEARCH RETURN TO: FEC HOME PAGE

Abbreviations:

PARTY DESIGNATION

PARTY DESCRIPTION

AIP AMERICAN INDEPENDENT PARTY AMP AMERICAN PARTY CIT CITIZENS CRV CONSERVATIVE PARTY CST CONSTITUTIONAL DEM DEMOCRAT PARTY DFL DEMOCRAT FARM LABOR GRE GREEN PARTY IND INDEPENDENT LAB LABOR LBR LABOR PARTY LIB LIBERTARIAN NLP NATURAL LAW PARTY NNE NONE OTH OTHER REF REFORM PARTY REP REPUBLICAN PARTY RTL RIGHT TO LIFE SWP SOCIALIST WORKERS PARTY TX TAXPAYERS UNK UNKNOWN

COMTE. DESIG.

DESIG DESCRIPTION

A AUTHORIZED BY A CANDIDATE J JOINT FUND RAISER P PRINCIPAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE OF A CANDIDATE U UNAUTHORIZED

COMTE. TYPE DESIG.

TYPE DESCRIPTION

C COMMUNICATION COST D DELEGATE H HOUSE I INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURE(PERSON OR GROUP, NOT A COMMITTEE) N NON-PARTY NON-QUALIFIED P PRESIDENTIAL Q QUALIFIED NON-PARTY(SEE 2USC SECT.441(A)(4)) S SENATE X NON-QUALIFIED PARTY Y QUALIFIED PARTY(SEE 2USC SECT.441(A)(4)) Z NATIONAL PARTY ORGANIZATION. NON FED ACCT.

Don't get sucked in to ruining your credibility.

Watch six and keep your...



-- eyes_open (best@wishes.net), September 01, 1999.


eyes,

Looks like she's listed as a candidate to me. If you think she is not aware of this, I know a bridge that is for sale.

Presented by the Federal Election Commission

Committees that match specified criteria:

Candidate Com. ID Committee Name City St Party Des Type State Office

C00253690 CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT INC LITTLE ROC AR DEM A P C00268722 CLINTON/GORE '92 GENERAL ELECTION C LITTLE ROC AR DEM A P 00 President C00272161 CLINTON/GORE '92 COMMITTEE LITTLE ROC AR DEM A P 00 President C00302265 CLINTON/GORE '96 PRIMARY COMMITTEE WASHINGTON DC DEM A P 00 President C00305938 CLINTON/GORE '96 GEN ELECTION LEGAL WASHINGTON DC A P 00 President C00321414 CLINTON/GORE '96 GENERAL COMMITTEE WASHINGTON DC DEM P P 00 President C00148635 CLINTON TOWNSHIP DEMOCRATIC CLUB FE CLINTON TO MI Q C00197434 CLINTON MILLS' POLITICAL ACTION COM COLUMBIA SC U Q C00313643 CLINTON/GORE - OAKLAND HIGHLAND MI U I C00322214 CITIZENS FOR CLINTON/GORE MIAMI FL U I C00322917 FRIENDS OF ROBYN I STEVENS FOR CLIN OWINGS MIL MD DEM U D C00323568 VIETNAMESE AMERICAN CLINTON/GORE & GARDEN GRO CA U I C00324723 LANCASTER COUNTY CITIZENS FOR CLINT LANCASTER PA U I P20000642 CLINTON, WILLIAM JEFFERSON WASHINGTON DC DEM 9 6 00 President C00278663 SOUTHEAST CLINTON/GORE CAMPAIGN HUNTINGTON CA U I C00275602 VIETNAMESE AMERICAN COMMITTEE FOR C WESTMINSTE CA U I C00275594 '92 CAMPAIGN FOR CLINTON COMMITTEE BLACKSBURG VA U I C00272872 STUDENTS FOR CLINTON JOLIET IL U I P00003392 CLINTON, HILLARY RODHAM WASHINGTON DC DEM 0 0 00 President C00278739 GEORGIA JEWS FOR CLINTON/GORE ATLANTA GA U I C00300384 DC2: DUMP CLINTON DEMOCRATIC COALIT GAINESVILL FL UNK U I

Total of 21 Committee(s) matched criteria

-- Homer Beanfang (Bats@inbellfry.com), September 01, 1999.


Homer

Let me try to beat the formatting in to something people can read and I'll try to make my point again.

The following from http://herndon1.sdrdc.com/cgi-bin/fecimg/

Presented by the Federal Election Commission

Committees that match specified criteria:

Candidate Com. ID Committee Name City St Party Des Type State Office

C00253690 CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT INC LITTLE ROC AR DEM A P C00268722 CLINTON/GORE '92 GENERAL ELECTION C LITTLE ROC AR DEM A P 00 President C00272161 CLINTON/GORE '92 COMMITTEE LITTLE ROC AR DEM A P 00 President C00302265 CLINTON/GORE '96 PRIMARY COMMITTEE WASHINGTON DC DEM A P 00 President C00305938 CLINTON/GORE '96 GEN ELECTION LEGAL WASHINGTON DC A P 00 President C00321414 CLINTON/GORE '96 GENERAL COMMITTEE WASHINGTON DC DEM P P 00 President C00148635 CLINTON TOWNSHIP DEMOCRATIC CLUB FE CLINTON TO MI Q 00197434 CLINTON MILLS' POLITICALACTION COM COLUMBIA SC U Q C00313643 CLINTON/GORE - OAKLAND HIGHLAND MI U I C00322214 CITIZENS FOR CLINTON/GORE MIAMI FL U I C00322917 FRIENDS OF ROBYN I STEVENS FOR CLIN OWINGS MIL MD DEM U D C00323568 VIETNAMESE AMERICAN CLINTON/GORE & GARDEN GRO CA U I C00324723 LANCASTER COUNTY CITIZENS FOR CLINT LANCASTER PA U I P20000642 CLINTON, WILLIAM JEFFERSON WASHINGTON DC DEM 9 6 00 President C00278663 SOUTHEAST CLINTON/GORE CAMPAIGN HUNTINGTON CA U I C00275602 VIETNAMESE AMERICAN COMMITTEE FOR C WESTMINSTE CA U I C00275594 '92 CAMPAIGN FOR CLINTON COMMITTEE BLACKSBURG VA U I C00272872 STUDENTS FOR CLINTON JOLIET IL U I P00003392 CLINTON, HILLARY RODHAM WASHINGTON DC DEM 0 0 00 President C00278739 GEORGIA JEWS FOR CLINTON/GORE ATLANTA GA U I C00300384 DC2: DUMP CLINTON DEMOCRATIC COALIT GAINESVILL FL UNK U I

Total of 21 Committee(s) matched criteria

TRY A: NEW SEARCH NEW ADVANCED SEARCH RETURN TO: FEC HOME PAGE

Abbreviations:

PARTY DESIGNATION

PARTY DESCRIPTION

AIP AMERICAN INDEPENDENT PARTY AMP AMERICAN PARTY CIT CITIZENS CRV CONSERVATIVE PARTY CST CONSTITUTIONAL DEM DEMOCRAT PARTY DFL DEMOCRAT FARM LABOR GRE GREEN PARTY IND INDEPENDENT LAB LABOR LBR LABOR PARTY LIB LIBERTARIAN NLP NATURAL LAW PARTY NNE NONE OTH OTHER REF REFORM PARTY REP REPUBLICAN PARTY RTL RIGHT TO LIFE SWP SOCIALIST WORKERS PARTY TX TAXPAYERS UNK UNKNOWN

COMTE. DESIG.

DESIG DESCRIPTION

A AUTHORIZED BY A CANDIDATE J JOINT FUND RAISER P PRINCIPAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE OF A CANDIDATE U UNAUTHORIZED

COMTE. TYPE DESIG.

TYPE DESCRIPTION

C COMMUNICATION COST D DELEGATE H HOUSE I INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURE(PERSON OR GROUP, NOT A COMMITTEE) N NON-PARTY NON-QUALIFIED P PRESIDENTIAL Q QUALIFIED NON-PARTY(SEE 2USC SECT.441(A)(4)) S SENATE X NON-QUALIFIED PARTY Y QUALIFIED PARTY(SEE 2USC SECT.441(A)(4)) Z NATIONAL PARTY ORGANIZATION. NON FED ACCT.

Now if that worked, you should see an "O" and "O" for Desig(nation) and type. They are not listed in either the designation or type catagory so it doesn't say that Hillary is aware there is a committee of dunderheads trying to blight our country with her in the whitehouse. It is unclear that the socialist witch is involved with the committee at all.

Watch six and keep your...

-- eyes_open (best@wishes.net), September 01, 1999.



Well. That didn't work.

Keep your...

-- eyes_open (best@wishes.net), September 01, 1999.


eyes,

read this:

A> HREF="http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a37cc941c1c0d.htm#1">LinK

-- Homer Beanfang (Bats@inbellfry.com), September 01, 1999.


A few questions, a few (derogatory) answers, firmly spoken with tongue planted in cheek...

Would the Reupblicans impeach her if she deuced a white house intern and lied about it? Yes, but only if the intern herself had first sued in a sexual herassment case...

Which party was she running under? The Communist Party, the IWWW or the Socialists?

It's intersting she has a bank account in NY, (HOW MUCH MONEY IS IN IT?) (Who paid the money?) without having a campaign or a manager.....can you spell cattle futures?

Would Gore be a VP again?

If Gore is Pres candidate, and if Hillary is VP, would you bet on Gore finishing his term.....alive?

-- Robert A. Cook, PE (Kennesaw, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), September 01, 1999.


Actually Robert...I don't think there's anything stopping Bill from running on Hillary's ticket...with the exception of that nasty frying pan...

-- a (a@a.a), September 01, 1999.

HIs capacity to succeed her would be limited to 2 years.

c

(2 elected terms with a total of 10 years is the const. limit)

-- Chuck, a night driver (rienzoo@en.com), September 02, 1999.



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