C-Span 2 is doing Y2K and Terrorism NOW

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See above. I don't know how long this lasts.

-- Rebecca Waldock (RWaldock@aol.com), August 30, 1999

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Now I see it was originally taped on July 8, 1999, but I still hadn't seen it before.

-- Rebecca Waldock (RWaldock@aol.com), August 30, 1999.

Wow, just caught the end of some Navy Seal spokesman(?), suggesting 60 days of cash, prepare for loss of power and water.

Gotta go.........

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), August 30, 1999.


Thanks Rebecca...I only have C-SPAN

"60 days of cash, prepare for loss of power and water. "

Will, seriously? And, from the Navy? Interesting...do they post transripts?

Mike

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-- Michael Taylor (mtdesign3@aol.com), August 30, 1999.


Commentary: Neil Livingstone: "fact is, we think something will happen somewhere." Don't travel if you don't have to, or travel early. Concerns about violent crimes, worse if there is a breakdown in services. (duh!) Questions asked about bank runs, and stockmarket drops.

-- claire (listeningtocspan@aol.com), August 30, 1999.

That was the best I've seen so far! Admiral Crowe is a GI! That navy seal dude was excellent! "60 days of cash don't get 100's get 10's and 5' and singles. Top off your tanks daily end of December. Water purifacation hand warmers for heat don't forget this will occur in the middle of winter."

I couldn't beleive it.

Then this bomb expert got up there and said "state dept numbers are always too low! When I was at the FBI we would pour over their numbers and they were always too low.

-- Johnny (JLJTM@BELLSOUTH.NET), August 30, 1999.



Y2K rep. from Wyoming (I just loooooooove their mind set, lol), asks Livingstone about scenerios he's been made aware of (rumor) that citizens groups are concerned about marauders traveling up and down highways, hitting communities to steal preps. He's been made aware of plans to band together in order to prevent this possibility, to the extent of blockades and distruction of highways and bridges.

Livingstone responds by sharing his story of hearing about women buying wood stoves to be placed in apartments and suggests this level of "over-reaction" is not prudent or necessary. He goes on to announce current law enforcement's "fear" of citizens deputizing themselves and taking the law into their own hands.

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), August 30, 1999.


They basically tell us we're on our own, but keep your hooves tied and your mouths full of grass. LOL

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), August 30, 1999.

This was a presentation by a group named "Global Options" to the National Press Club on July 8, 1999. They have some charge or authority to mitigate Y2K disruptions. They are comprised of many "ex" upper level government leaders including an ex Joint Chief of Staff. I do not think the tape has aired before today or we would have caught and talked about what they were recommending. IT IS MORE EVIDENCE THAT THE PRESS IS NOT DISSEMINATING THE INFORMATION THAT IS BEING HANDED TO THEM, LET ALONE NOT INVESTIGATING Y2K. No reports on this press club meeting came out, to my knowledge, in the nearing two months since it occured. Gary Stubblefield (of the GlobalOps group reccommended to the newsmen that they secure SIXTY DAYS CASH IN SMALL BILLS, NINETY DAYS MEDICATIONS, AND AT LEAST30 DAYS FOOD AND WATER. He reccommended that if they had no way to safely store extra gasoline to keep their tanks full, purchase water filtration equipment, and alternate communications equipment, as well as the standard emergency flashlights, first aid and blankets etc.. All the speakers discouraged travel and gathering in large crowds. They advised if you travel GET PAPER TICKETS - NOT E-TICKSETS, OR YOU MAY BE STRANDED. They revealed plans to commence spaceing aircraft flights at greater intervals for safety and the backlog that would create. They reccommended not flying a few days before or after the rollover. They have a web site it is www.globalops.com

-- Ann Fisher (zyax55b@prodigy.com), August 30, 1999.

Well, WAIT A MINUTE, HOLD ON. If this was produced on JULY 8, then those Navy guys were probably relying on the JUNE report that Jim Lord released. As we all know, that report is now "old data", and the new one says things are going to be just peachy.

(Thought I would get that in before Hoffmeister could. I'm after your job, Hoffy! Look out, dude!!)

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.com), August 30, 1999.

Ann

Thanks for the link.

Here is a link to their site and a "white paper" they posted.

Most of it is common info.

THE OTHER Y2K PROBLEM
A Report Prepared by GlobalOptions LLC

 The Other Y2K Problem, White Paper

This is an interesting bit;

While the scope and seriousness of the problem can, and will, be
debated up to the advent of the new millennium, no one is predicting
that January 1, 2000, will come and go without problems. According
to a January 1999 statement by a World Bank official, "While wealthy
countries and large companies have the money and skilled technicians
needed to immunize computers and their operating software from the
Millennium Bug, many of our developing country clients cannot
muster the resources to tackle a problem that most see as a vague and
distant threat."(12) Even the most optimistic prognosticators note that
Russia and most developing countries are seriously unprepared for
Y2K and that billions of lines of code have yet to be changed in
computer software in those countries. The Russian government has
said it will cost $1 billion to $3 billion to make the necessary computer
fixes in that country. "That is up to one-seventh of a federal budget
that already cannot pay some pensions and debts," writes one
observer.(13) In the Ukraine and other parts of the former Soviet
Union, power and other systems are at serious risk. An official of
China's National Petroleum Office predicts "disasters" when the
millennium bug strikes.

As of May 28, 1999, Nigeria, the second largest economy in Africa,
had yet to even begin planning for the Y2K transition. Although it
ranks among the world's 10 most computerized nations, the
government of Brazil intends to spend only $300 million on Y2K
compliance, far short of the amount actually required. In a recent
update, Felix Murillo, Peru's national Y2K coordinator, indicated that
only 16 percent of the computers have been fixed in government
agencies, and only 9 percent of those agencies even have contingency
plans for computer failures. Iran says it will need international
assistance to address its Y2K computer problems.(14)

As of March of this year, Ecuador and Guatemala reported that they
hadn't even begun planning for Y2K. According to presidential
chief-of-staff Alfredo Pena in Venezuela, the previous government,
which left office in February, "made absolutely no preparations to get
computers ready to handle Year 2000 dates." This left the country
"with 10 months to do what the much larger United States did in ten
years."(15) Fearing that its traffic management systems will not be
ready, the Panama Canal will not admit ships on December 31.

Virtually no country in Africa (with the possible exception of South
Africa), the Middle East, or Latin America is expected to be fully Y2K
compliant, and most will require months, if not years, to bring their
systems into compliance. Similarly, few Asian nations are expected to
be ready for the Y2K changeover. Only in far less developed nations
like Vietnam is the Y2K bug unlikely to have a major impact.

It is possible that Y2K will lead to political and economic instability in
many parts of the world, and perhaps even to the collapse of
governments.

While the problems will be most acute in the developing world, there
clearly will be serious disruptions in many other industrialized
nations. Powercor, the largest electrical distributor in the Australian
state of Victoria, has asserted that it cannot guarantee uninterrupted
electrical supplies in the year 2000. Japanese officials indicate that
Japan still lags behind the United States in Y2K compliance, although
the gap has been narrowed from six months to three months. A recent
survey of 7,301 Italian companies found that 56.9 percent were
unsure whether or not they would be Y2K compliant by the end of the
year. The Italian government didn't even set up a Y2K coordinating
committee until January of this year. "I'm afraid we're starting a little
late," said Cabinet Undersecretary Franco Bassanini.(16) "Italy is
going to crash, and we are going to be crucified," says Romano
Oneda, a member of the country's Y2K compliance committee.(17)

-- Brian (imager@home.com), August 30, 1999.



The program you are talking about aired live on cspan in June. I and most of my family watched it. By the way, most of my family and friends have been GI's for over two years.

-- henrietta neville (bneville@zebra.net), August 30, 1999.

Navy Seal was former commander of Navy Seal Goup 3 - best of the bunch and yes he said at least 30 days. Someone also said that the numbers on the grids and the nuc plants were "probably not very accurate". Adm. Crowe was very short with some ditsy woman reporter who said, "You really don't mean to recommend that people don't go to New Year celebrations do you?" and he replied something to the effect that you would be placing yourself in a "target rich environment" if you go to any of the really large gatherings (Time's Square and the Mall" were two he mentioned.) They also sounded rather sure that there would be a run on the banks.

Actually, I sat there with my mouth open to hear such doomy prognostications coming from my TV set. Was definitely not an "all is honky-dory" presentation. Wonder what is on tomorrow - this is supposed to run every day this week.

-- Valkyrie (anon@please.net), August 30, 1999.


Will continue: Keep your hooves up! drop the grass; now back away. Sloowly.

If anyone knows where we can get a transcript please post it.

-- Shelia (Shelia@active-stream.com), August 30, 1999.


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