As you all probably have heard, hurricane Dennis is menacing the Carolina coast. I went to the super market this morning to get a few things and saw a TV news crew hard at work reporting on the hurricane preparations. I also saw store employees hard at work emptying fully stocked shelves of water, paper products and dairy products. They were putting them on pallets and shopping carts so that the TV crew could film 'empty shelves" I am all for preparations but I don't like the way the news is edited for maximum effect. I dare say the intent is not to prepare people, but to improve ratings. I guess the store cooperated because such news also improves sales. It doesn't improve much for us poor folks does it?

Bill in South Carolina

-- Bill Solorzano (notaclue@webtv.net), August 26, 1999

Answers

"Perception" management?

Actually disaster "experience" tells us it's what DOES happen, so perhaps this is an example of newsmedia contingency planning... so they have the footage "in the can" ready in advance... to "air" at the appropriate time.

Be well, Bill!

Diane

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), August 26, 1999.

Cheap trick, alright.

Good to hear from you again and be safe!

-- lisa (lisa@work.now), August 26, 1999.

Bill

Menacing the Carolina coast?? Not yet is it?? The National Weather Service said this morning that it would be 150 miles due east of Jacksonville on Saturday (maybe). Screwed up a weekend at Flagler Beach for us!

I've seen them do the same thing here with the store shelves.......sad really.

Here's hoping it misses all of us!

Deano

-- Deano (deano@luvthebeach.com), August 26, 1999.

The local stations are just sinking in the hole that the national news stations are digging lower and lower. I will be praying that you and yours will be safe from the storm.

-- Carol (glear@usa.net), August 26, 1999.

Good hurricane freshens the air. Nothing like it.

-- Spidey (in@jam.commie), August 26, 1999.

Sorry to not chime in like everyone else, but i find this VERY hard to believe.

I cant imagine a store manager telling his staff to empty shelves so the news crew could fake a story.

Do you know how hard it is to stock shelves?. The manager of the store could lose his job for this and all the employees would know its a scam. What kind of an idiot do you think we all are.

No way did this happen. If it did then tell us the name of the store and the town the store is in.

-- Fat Tony (FatTony@youmammashouse.com), August 26, 1999.

Why were you surprised? News isn't news anymore.

It's "infotainment".... (Gotta get those RATINGS points!)

-- Dennis (djolson@pressenter.com), August 26, 1999.

Fat Tony

What makes you think the store manager would lose his job? He has no responsibility to insure accurate news, nor does his employers. And the footage probably would have people heading towards his store. So the manager seems to be taking steps that would result in greater sales. Which, I think we all agree, would be his job.

As far as it being a "scam", well, maybe he wants to be president.

Keep your...

-- eyes_open (best@wishes.net), August 26, 1999.

Fat Tony,

It's possible that this was win-win for the media _and_ the store-- I saw empty shelf footage when covering the Texas hurricane last week-- however they also talked about how some stores were 'trying to help meet the customer's needs' by setting up pallets and carts of food or other hurrican necessities toward the front of the store...

Just a possibility.

-- winter wondering (winterwondrng@yahoo.com), August 26, 1999.

Fat Tony, you sir are the idiot. As a video producer, there are all kinds of tricks to get grocery stores to roll over and do whatever you need. I have gotten them to tear up and rebuild big chunks of the produce section (a major endeavor) to add some color to the shot.

Maybe the grocery did advertising on the station. Reduced rates, or free time can move mountains sometimes. Stick to what (little) you know Fat Guy.

-- Mama needs to throw fat Tony out da house ((((@(((.(((), August 26, 1999.

I know ite hurricane season and that may account for it but has anyone else noticed the attempt, albeit subtle, to get people to start preparing for "self sustaining" situations?

I saw an interveiw with this dude in state govt. in Delaware and that's what he said " prepare for a 3 days self sustaining period ". Then the reporter went into what all you need for 3 days water baby foods,etc..

I thought I live in the heartland why are they showing this to me?

-- (server@too busy.org), August 26, 1999.

Fat Tony: Are you kidding? You honestly don't think they'd empty the shelves just so the story looks better on the tube? No offense, but honestly, what planet were you living on and in what year did you come to Earth?

"Dirty little secrets and dirty little lies..." la, la, la!

-- mar (derigueur2@aol.com), August 26, 1999.

While in a hotel lobby in Minneapolis a few years ago, there was a teachers convention being held at same location. The media interviewed a union memeber and then filmed her talking on the telephone as though she were reporting the days events to her associates back home. After the taping, the guy told the teacher to go back to the phone and act upset while talking. After that take, her had her one more time go back to the phone to act upset. He then praised her for a great interview and a great job on the phone. He produced/manufactured the news. She was never upset as I overheard the entire conversation from the beginning. But the people of MN damn well found out how upset the teachers were. WHAT A BUNCH

-- enough is (enough@enough.com), August 26, 1999.

When I find the name and town of this store I will START to believe the story.

I know what the media can do, but you also have to think what someone wont do when they know its wrong or can get them into trouble.

-- FatTony (FatTony@youmammashouse.com), August 26, 1999.

Bill has been a reliable poster here for a long time. He would not waste his time posting fiction.

-- Mike Lang (webflier@erols.com), August 26, 1999.

Yeah, I'm sure showing that you have EMPTY shelves is a great marketing ploy to get people to come into your stores. Brilliant idea!

-- Do You See (how.stupid@you.look), August 26, 1999.

I'm with Tony on this one.... let's have the store name and the town-- what would it hurt?

hey tony, say hi to my mom for me!

-- Super (Slfsl@yahoo.com), August 26, 1999.

Bill has been posting here since Fat tony was skinny!!

-- (server@toobusy.org), August 26, 1999.

Reliable?. In what way?. That he comes up with stories that make you go "Oooh" and "Aaaah".

He was sooooo lucky to walk into a store that was faking a story about shelves being empty. No little alarms pop up in your head when you read that in his message.

Old reliable Bill comes through again?. Someone please show me the other stories he has posted so I can check the validity of them.

I am NOT saying he is a liar but I cannot believe another one of these stories of someone stumbling into a situation where they saw another eye-opening scene like this. We get so many of them on this board and nobody ever wants to post more info on where, when, what, who.

Why dont i just fabricate a story and you can decide to see if its true:

I walked into my bank today and a guy was filling out a withdrawal slip for $5000. In his other hand he had a Y2k flier someone must have printed out and given to him.

A friend of mine works for the local telephone company and says they havent checked any of the embedded chips yet. He looked very scared.

I was passing the police department the other day and saw the main garage was open and there were stacks of "STOP" signs in the back, wonder what that was for.

We lost power last night for 1 hour and when I called the power company and asked the lady if it was Y2k testing she became very agitated with me and didnt want to talk about it.

...........................

-- Fat Tony (FatTony@youmammasehouse.com), August 26, 1999.

It's sorta like the same thing when Al Gore got into the middle of the creek in a canoe and there wasn't much water in the creek. So he asked that water be released from the dam so he could have the full effect of his campaign. The news media lapped it up! Don't believe anything you hear and only have of what you see.

-- hear no evil see no evil (hearnoevilseenoevil@hearnoevilseenoevil.com), August 26, 1999.

Okay Fat guy, let me take you by the hand and show you how a video producer would get that shot and walk away with everyone in the store thinking he was a genius and that they were helping to make video magic.

Okay guys, what I need for this story is a very graphic visual statement concerning stockpiling and the impact of empty shelves. Everyone is used to seeing the shelves full, with the way you always do your jobs so well to keep them overflowing with food. I want to lead this story with a shot of these shelves full to the brim. Then at an appropriate point in the voice over we will do a slow dissolve to these same shelves, only comepletely empty. What a stark, shocking image that will be! It will really get the point across. I know this is a lot of work, but we have two production assistants that will stay behind and help you get the shelves back in order. Thanks, you guys are great....

Wake up big guy. Happens all the time. Smoke and mirrors. I know, I do it for a living.

-- Mama tell fat guy to get a life ()))@))).)))), August 26, 1999.

Ok producer guy, so anything anyone says here is the truth because you pull it off all the time.

So we should just expect it to be true and shut up.

So we wont get the stores name and town and we just let it go.

Starting to look like y2knewswire with their "citizens reports".

-- Fat Tony (FatTony@youmammashouse.com), August 26, 1999.

Bill, ignore Fat Tony. He's been trolling this forum forever and somehow he was attracted to this thread. Again, glad to hear from you...

-- lisa (lisa@work.now), August 26, 1999.

Hi Bill,

Glad to see you still come by from time to time. I have stored your story, its a good description of spin makers in action.

Hope the storm passes you by.

Best Regards,

-- Bob Barbour (r.barbour@waikato.ac.nz), August 26, 1999.

Bill, Your story doesn't suprise me, nothing on TV does, still pathetic though...can you give us the station name? A local station I presume.... Regards,

-- FactFinder (FactFinder@bzn.com), August 26, 1999.

Fat Tony, you moron, you've asked for the name of city six times, try looking in the title of the thread. You're a god damn idiot.

-- Skinny Tony (@ .), August 26, 1999.

Rotund one, you overweight troll, you believe about Bill's post whatever you want.

You attacked him as a liar, saying this kind of thing just cant happen or the manager would be fired or the store people would never go along with the ruse.

I know Bills story is quite probable, whether he states the stores name, street address, zip code and managers shoe size, or not.

I have been there, done that.

-- Mama, give Tony a pizza so he can go back to sleep under his bridge ()))@))).)))), August 26, 1999.

Bill,

Let me add my voice to the chorus of welcome. We haven't heard enough from you lately; as a matter of fact, in quite a while. How about spending a little more time with us? I for one always value your perspective and contributions.

To everyone else,

It is not up to Bill to "prove" his words to you or to offer any more than he has. His responsibility ends once he presents the truth as best as he knows it.

Those of you that have the tenure here to know Bill from his past postings and who remember some of the details fo his experience in life will have no trouble understanding my confidence that what he presented here is exactly what he saw and precisely what happened.

Those of you who are not so fortunate have a choice: take the word of those of us who know Bill that he is a reliable and trustworthy reporter, or not. If your "Forum Image" matters to you, consider that unfounded distrust of Bill coupled with blind faith in the media will indeed give you the appearance of cluelessness.

-- Hardliner (searcher@internet.com), August 26, 1999.

Hey Fat Tony,

If Al Gore could invent the internet, why couldn't Bill see some clerk emptying shelves?

-- RW (randy@weaver.com), August 26, 1999.

BILL:

Please give me the name of the store. I guess I have to assume the town is the same as the title but I want to be sure we arent getting any of the facts wrong.

thanks.

-- Fat Tony (FatTony@youmammashouse.com), August 26, 1999.

Fat Tony it was the Piggly Wiggly no the Pic Pac no the Giant who cares You could of walked into any store and gotten any $ 10.00|hr person or anybody to do the same thing!

It should be obvious to you by now that everyone believes Bill cause we've known him for awhile.

You've only been around since you moved back in with mama!

-- Johnny (JLJTM@BELLSOUTH.NET), August 26, 1999.

Ok, this will be my last post on this thread, but remember this:

If Bill doesnt post the name of the store, he has reason to. What reason?. It didnt happen. He doesnt have a reason to protect the store, they dont know he was there. Surely others saw it. So its not like he is afraid.

Why is blind faith so much better than the facts?. Why do you hate me just because I ask for the facts?. Think about that.

Are you just lying to yourself about this issue?

-- Fat Tony (FatTony@youmammashouse.com), August 26, 1999.

.....well, actually, tony, we hateyou because you're an obnoxious a**h***.

-- get lost (no more@tony.pls), August 26, 1999.

Would bankers be furious if news crews filmed lines of people standing in bank lobbies waiting to make withdrawals?

-- Randolph (dinosaur@williams-net.com), August 26, 1999.

Fat Tony finds this a little hard to believe, as I do. He asks for the name of the store and where it is. What in hell is so wrong with him asking these questions?? If this ACTUALLY did happen, why can't the person who made the "announcement" simply give the store and location?? Instead, everybody jumps down his throat and calls him all kinds of names. If it DID happen, say when and where. What is wrong with asking for reasonable confirmation. I'm just a country boy, and I can't see flaming somebody for asking a reasonable question. So, I reckon I get flamed now----cause I'd like proof! Kentucky Bill

-- George W Berge (gberge@kih.net), August 26, 1999.

The fact that Bill said it is reason enough to believe it. You don't need proof. Everybody knows the media loves to cast a negative spin on everything. It makes the story sound better.

-- (duh@duh.duh), August 26, 1999.

George,

Bill's a LONG time "known" poster here. Perhaps he'll check the thread tomorrow, and update us.

"Fat Tony" on the other hand is a pest and exhibits trollish behavior on almost everything s/he posts. S/he "appears" to be a very recent newcomer... with an intention to disrupt. This is why posters pay little attention to FT's often rude rantings.

Just an observation... F.Y.I.

Diane

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), August 26, 1999.

Bill, hope you're doing ok in that hurricane. We're experiencing a welcomed deluge here in PA, undoing this aweful drought we've had this summer.

I have no reason to doubt Bill either from his history here on the forum. Fat Tony I think is simply having a normal reaction to being awakened bruskly. We've been talking about media spin as long as I've been here, but what Bill is reporting is a concrete hard-to-swallow evidence for him. Hopefully his mind will adjust soon, and he will start seeing the evidence for himself. Actually, it speaks well of Fat Tony's own honesty, in a naive way.

-- Chris (%$^&^@pond.com), August 26, 1999.

My Dear Mr. Fat or Mr. Tony or just plain, "rude little man":

If you read the title of the post you will see that the town of which I speak is Charleston SC. The market is "Food Lion" Now that you have such valuable information at your disposal I suppose you will have to believe it. I urge you to get a life.

Bill in South Carolina (A large and polite man who is only rude to those who are rude first)

-- Bill Solorzano (notaclue@webtv.net), August 26, 1999.

Yo, Tubby Tony!!

I just happened to be watching the weather channel, trying to catch report for Saturday up here. They be talking about hurricane watch in carolinas and...... You guessed it! Stores with EMPTY SHELVES.

BWahahahhhhahahahahhaaa Hey man, you want to see which store it is? Just turn on your $@%^&$ TV you moron.

-- Art (artw@lancnews.infi.net), August 26, 1999.

LOL!! Like I said, the media casts a negative spin on everything . It's hard to know what's really the truth.

-- (duh@duh.duh), August 26, 1999.

I wish to thank all of you old timers who remember me and think well of me. It really made me feel good to read your messages.

Bill in South Carolina

-- Bill Solorzano (notaclue@webtv.net), August 26, 1999.

FYI

Local TV station in Charleston South Carolina http://www.wciv.com/index.html

SCIV Channel 4

There was a mention of a story at eleven concerning stores with empty shelves.

Time is now 10:42 PM Eastern

[For those who cannot search the 'net for themselves, but I won't mention any names, Fat Tony.]

-- J (jart5@bellsouth.net), August 26, 1999.

Bill,

Thanks for the very revealing report of what goes on behind the scenes. Personally, I wouldn't want the Fat Tony's of the world to know my real name, hometown, and the name of my neighborhood grocery store. You're a brave man with a lot of integrity.

Safe harbors to you and yours

-- RUOK (RUOK@yesiam.com), August 27, 1999.

Bill--I remember you from the Frugal Squirrel. You were on that forum when I was just a newbie searching for answers. You never, ever flamed me and you were one of the few that I truly had respect for. I learned a lot from you and others and I just want to say thank you. I have a lot of respect for you and and I wish the best for you. Bardou

-- bardou (bardou@baloney.com), August 27, 1999.

Fat Tony should remember that, based on his own standards of evidence, here asserted, he is required to disbelieve everything he sees in the newspaper, everything seen or reported on TV, everything told him by strangers or acquaintances or friends, everything published in refereed scientific journals, and most especially everything found in the history books and in the diaries and personal letters of dead persons.

That is, unless he is able to verify the dubious item by personal experience. He has set himself a monumental challenge. It's a wonder he's not catatonic.

Somewhere I read of an elder's counsel to an adolescent boy, who had been caught lying. He asked the boy to imagine the end result, if he got in the habit of tellling lies. The boy said, "I guess eventually nobody would believe anything I said." The elder said, "But that's not the worst part of it. What's worse is that eventually you wouldn't be able to believe anyone else."

-- Tom Carey (tomcarey@mindspring.com), August 27, 1999.

Deano

Menacing the Carolina coast?? Not yet is it?? The National Weather Service said this morning that it would be 150 miles due east of Jacksonville on Saturday (maybe). Screwed up a weekend at Flagler Beach for us!

Whachu talkin 'bout Willis? Surf will be up, dude. Grab your fins and belly board and get your sad ass out there.

Bill

Surely by now you have a clue?

-- Uncle Deedah (unkeed@yahoo.com), August 27, 1999.

Sorry I didn't catch this earlier. Bill's veracity is beyond question, his observational and deductive skills finely honed by a long career in law enforcement; if Bill says it happened--trust him--it happened.

-- Old Git (anon@spamproblems.com), August 27, 1999.

Hey Unc

What was that for?

For the 10th time - I do not surf. I fish and I drink beer and I nap.

Sad ass?? Now really Unc, thought you were one of the grown-ups on this forum.

Bill was a little misleading in his story. The storm is not menacing the Carolina coast. It probably will before it's over but right now it's a few hundred miles SE of the Miami. That's still a prett good ways from Charleston last time I looked.

Deano

-- Deano (deano@luvthebeach.com), August 27, 1999.

Deano, you're a weather polly, too?

-- lisa (lisa@work.now), August 27, 1999.

Lisa

Honey, please......

Yall are like a friggin' hive!!! The damn storm is not near Charleston at this time idiot! Look at a damn weather map for yourself. They just put us under a hurricane watch (Lisa - that means that hurricane conditions are likely in the the next 24-36 hours). We're 250 miles south of Charleston and the watch runs to Fernandina Beach - only 10 miles north of my house.

Where the hell did you get 'weather polly' from chick?? That doesn't make sense even coming from YOU.

Get a clue girl.

Deano

-- Deano (deano@luvthebeach.com), August 27, 1999.

Local TV news this morning showed a stored with empty shelves in the path of Hurricane Dennis.

-- Brooks (brooksbie@hotmail.com), August 27, 1999.

Deano, I live in the Carolinas. Since yesterday morning (at least), CNN, the Weather Channel and my local TV stations, PLUS three Net hurricane sites have been been saying Dennis is MOST likely to hit the Carolinas, although there is a SLIGHT chance it will hit Florida or Georgia. That prediction may change but at the moment that's the meteorology computers' best guess. We have to take early notice because in tourist season it can take many, many hours to safely evacuate the barrier islands--bridges and ferries are closed long before a hurricane arrives. I already have my rechargeable batteries ready to be topped up tonight if it looks necessary (for TV, scanner, fans, etc.)

-- Old Git (anon@spamproblems.com), August 27, 1999.

Here are three different sites showing the projected path of Dennis, followed by an AP article concerning the alert status of NC.

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at199905.html

http://www.intellicast.com/Tropical/World/UnitedStates/HurTrack1/

http://www.GoPBI.com/auto/channels/weather/storm/atlantic/dennis/denni smap-c.html

North Carolina starts to brace for hurricane

12 p.m. ET Friday - Associated Press

RALEIGH (AP) -- Hurricane Dennis is still hundreds of miles away from North Carolina, but emergency planners believe the state might be a target and have urged 150,000 coastal residents to get ready.

"Let me emphasize -- IF -- the storm impacts North Carolina," Secretary of Crime Control and Public Safety Richard Moore said Thursday. "Today, our message is preparedness."

Moore said residents should have at least three days of emergency supplies on hand for each family member, including a gallon of water each, nonperishable food and medications.

State troopers have been put on alert, as have emergency management personnel, Moore said. Officials opened an emergency operations center in Onslow County.

At 11 a.m. today, the center of Dennis was near 25.7 north latitude and 75.9 west longitude, or about 345 miles southeast of Cape Canaveral, Fla. The storm has sustained winds of 80 mph and was moving this morning west-northwest at 7 mph. The storm prompted weather officials to post a hurricane watch for portions of Florida's Atlantic coast. A hurricane warning covered parts of the Bahamas.

Dennis' path has shifted slightly to the west and closer to the Florida coast. The current track has it reaching land at South Carolina as a possible Category 3 storm, meaning winds of 111 to 130 mph.

But said hurricane center meteorologist Todd Kimberlain: "We're not letting anyone off the hook anywhere along the (Southeastern U.S.) coast."

While surfers off the Outer Banks rode huge waves generated by the far-off storm, some residents of the Wilmington area went to supply stores for plywood, batteries and lanterns.

"We're starting to sell plywood and a lot of propane, batteries, lights," said Troy Green, a clerk at a Carolina Beach store.

In Wilmington, officials with home retailers Lowe's and Home Depot told the Morning Star that the companies had stockpiles of supplies such as plywood and generators ready for shipment to areas that might be threatened by the hurricane.

Lee McConnell, a Lowe's manager, said he knew of 12 tractor-trailers headed to his store loaded with coolers, flashlights, batteries, rope, plywood, shutters and other items.

Brad Andrews, assistant manager of the Wilmington Home Depot, started calling sister stores Sunday night to ask them to send what they could.

Ten to 15 trucks loaded with hurricane recovery supplies at the company's distribution center in Charlotte are ready to roll within eight hours after a hurricane strike, he added.

"Every time you have one, you learn," he said.

An estimated 120,000 to 150,000 people live along North Carolina's 320-mile coast, and the summer tourist influx swells the population to about half a million.

While officials along the coast said public safety is the top priority, they also are aware of the economic impact of a hurricane evacuation.

"We might wait until as late as possible to issue an evacuation order," Mike Adderton, Carteret County's emergency management director, told The Charlotte Observer.

"We don't want to disrupt business," said Adderton, who estimates there are 30,000 tourists and residents on the county's beaches this week. "At the same time, we don't want someone to stay home and get hurt. It puts us in a tough spot with those near-misses."

Meanwhile, the Coast Guard urged mariners to monitor the storm and get to their destinations before the arrival of gale force winds because drawbridges may remain closed once winds hit 34 knots.

On Hatteras Island, crews worked to complete the laying bricks under the Cape Hatteras Lighthouse, which was moved this summer from its perch 150 feet from the ocean. The 208-foot, 5,000-ton brick lighthouse is now on a concrete foundation 1,600 feet from the ocean. Bricks are being laid under it to replace temporary support jacks.

"The lighthouse is in a wonderfully stable position for a hurricane than it was before," said Richard Lohr, president of International Chimney Corp., the Buffalo, N.Y., company that oversaw the move.

The National Park Service moved the historic lighthouse to get it away from crashing surf that has eroded the beach for decades.

Farmers also watched the weather, worrying that heavy rains from a hurricane or tropical storm could damage crops.

"Cotton, corn, soybeans, tobacco, they're all still in the field and vulnerable," said Billy Dunham, Craven County agricultural extension agent.

Once a storm passes, Moore said, the state has generators ready to deploy to large farms and to sewage and water plants. Rolls of plastic to make emergency roof repairs and trucks to haul water and ice are ready to move, he said.

"We're really hoping we do not have to put this plan into place," Moore said.

The preparations came on the first anniversary of Hurricane Bonnie, which came ashore at Cape Fear last August and caused extensive flooding along sounds and coastal rivers. A girl died in Barco when a tree fell on her family's home.

Copyright 1999, The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast or redistributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press.

-- Old Git (anon@spamproblems.com), August 27, 1999.

Old Git

Don't all hurricanes that travel up the eastern seaboard end up in the Carolinas?? It sure seems that way. I feel for you guys up there. Really. Yall have had more than your fair share over the years.

I'm sure my message was lost because I'm a polly and not a doomer. If I were a doomer we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

My point (the whole time) was that Dennis was still several hundred miles SE of the USA this time yesterday when Bill originally posted. They didn't know what he was going to do. It wasn't 'menacing the Carolina coast' then. It probably will be by Sunday though. Looks like we might get a taste of it too. Heading a little more west than they first thought it would.

Calling me a weather polly (given what little history yall know of me) is either childish or stoopid. In this case, probably both.

Regardless - here's hoping it misses all of us with it's worst and then dumps several inches of badly needed water on our NE USA freinds.

Deano

-- Deano (deano@luvthebeach.com), August 27, 1999.

Deano, that was a friendly rib.

C'mon, guy.

-- lisa (lisa@down.boy), August 27, 1999.

Lisa

Great. Now I feel bad. With you doomers, it's hard to tell.

Sorry about that.

Deano

-- Deano (deano@luvthebeach.com), August 27, 1999.

I think Lisa was right. Deano *is* a weather polly. You don't wait until the stinking hurricane is 5 miles off the coast to prepare! It's your mindset Deano. Wait until the evidence is crashing around your head, then prepare.

-- (none@none.none), August 27, 1999.

none

You're an idiot. Plain and simple. No one, not even me, said that.

Please just read the thread and let me think you're an idiot before opening your mouth and removing all doubt.

none must be respresentative of you IQ.

Deano

-- Deano (deano@luvthebeach.com), August 27, 1999.

"The damn storm is not near Charleston at this time idiot! Look at a damn weather map for yourself. They just put us under a hurricane watch (Lisa - that means that hurricane conditions are likely in the the next 24-36 hours)." ~Deano

So when exactly are they supposed to prepare Deano?

-- (none@none.none), August 27, 1999.

Hardliner pops on a thread and tells someone he doesn't post enough - that's rich.

ittybittylurker

-- ittybittylurker (ibl@woodwork.net), August 27, 1999.

It is ironic isn't it, Ittybity.

I'm wondering if all the valuable contributors didn't just decide to pack up and move to another secret forum and didn't tell me. I feel like a starved bag-lady scrounging for nutritious morsels...Or maybe It's simply that I'm not looking at the right threads, just too many to sift through anymore. *sigh*

-- Chris (%$^&^@pond.com), August 27, 1999.

Hey Chris, your friendly, approachable, intelligent Orangutan is still here...

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), August 27, 1999.

"So he asked that water be released from the dam so he could have the full effect of his campaign. The news media lapped it up!"

Surely the level would have gone down again? Musta been Gores idea...

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), August 27, 1999.

Maybe it would be more accurate to describe BEANO! as a weather cock:)

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), August 27, 1999.

Deano

Mine was a friendly rib too, and I have NEVER claimed to be an adult, I am an older child.

-- Uncle Deedah (unkeed@yahoo.com), August 28, 1999.

Good way to deal with over population. East coast hurricanes and west coast earthquakes.!! haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

-- (GetRidofyou@all.com), August 28, 1999.

Unc Dee

Freindly ribs are fine. Like I told Lisa, it's just hard to tell sometimes. 'Older child' - I like that!

Andy??

Did they stick you on the east coast and tell you to blah, blah, blah about conspiracies and crap? We in NE FL sure do appreciate the blowhard in you boy! Maybe they're on to something here........

Old Git

Glad it missed you too.

Deano

-- Deano (deano@luvthebeach.com), August 30, 1999.