How can a single happy heathy GI chick get a date for the weekend in July of 1999?

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Ok,

First off let me say that admittedly - I am whining. I am whining about Y2k and my insignificant love life. However, as annoying as whining may be it is still within forum guidelines. I am whining because I am single and can't figure out how to get a boyfriend as a single GI chick in July 1999. Even if the subject doesn't come up in the first conversation it has to be broached eventually. When it does come up I am subdued - no proselytizing - yet honest about my research into Y2k.

I have scared away half a dozen potential suitors (or at least dates) because of Y2k. There is simply no way to avoid the topic completely. So many things I do in a day and so many of the decisions I make only make sense if you atleast understand what Y2k is and why I am concerned. I mean, even if a guy just asks "What did you do today?" I have to come up with some reason why I spent 5 hours packing food into buckets or I have to lie.

One guy Got It right away. He was net savvy and all I had to do was show him the site for the Senate Report. He left town within the month to help his parents prepare. The rest of the guys never called me again.

Its bad enough that Y2k is going to create havoc and heartache over the next 6 months (or longer) but did it have to destroy my current social life too? Is anyone else in the same predicament? Any advice for the lovelorn GI?

-- Feeling Shy (single@Y2k.gal), July 15, 1999

Answers

Ok Ok. I'm not a "heathy" chick. I'm a healthy chick - really. I just can't type worth a damn.

-- Feeling Shy (single@Y2k.gal), July 15, 1999.

Corinne -- you back from vacation already?

-- OutingsR (us@here.yar), July 15, 1999.

Naw. Too coherent for chlorine. I think its Killer relieving a little of his pent up sexual frustration.

-- a (a@a.a), July 15, 1999.

Wait six months. A single chick with preps will be mighty popular. In the meantime rent some movies that you may never see again for a long time.

-- Dog Gone (layinglow@rollover.now), July 15, 1999.

Hey if I wasn't so bummed already I would be insulted. I'm not "Corrine" nor am I trying to be flip. Maybe this isn't an issue for you Outings but it is for me. I doubt I'm the only one.

-- Feeling Shy (Single@Y2k.gal), July 15, 1999.


Gee Feel - If you are for real - where are you????

-- Valkyrie (anon@please.net), July 15, 1999.

No you're not the only one. I've been a GI since '96, so you can imagine how lonely I am right about now. Of course, I don't bother to date guys that are DGI.

DJ

-- DJ (reality@check.com), July 15, 1999.


I know exactly what you are saying. I'm a single, harthy and healthy:>) Y2k GI guy and anytime I discuss the topic of "Y2K" to an unaware female, I get the "you must be looney" look from her and then the big brush off. I've come to the conclusion that, in the words of Cindy Laupner(sp) "Girls Just Want To Have Fun". I now refrain from Y2k discussions in most settings, and only discuss it with people who choose awareness (i.e.,people who ask me questions first). By the way I live in Charlotte, NC.

-- cb (single2@Y2k.guy), July 15, 1999.

Matchmaker, Matchmaker, make me a match...

-- Dog Gone (layinglow@rollover.now), July 15, 1999.

I'm for real. I will go so far as to say I'm in the Northwest. Disclosing my location on the net seems kinda foolish. Especially since I'm blathering on about how prepped I am. I post here (non anonymously) pretty often. This post is not an invitation for provactive e-mail. Its a genuine quandry being suffered by a genuine woman. I have only been single for a year after a lonnng relationship. It would be hard enough under normal circumstances. I am truly lost as to how to avoid being cold and lonely during the longest coldest black-out in history.

-- Feeling Shy (single@Y2k.gal), July 15, 1999.


In the back of American Survival magazine there are a lot of personal classifieds, although it does seem like a high percentage are prisoners who are about to be released.

Probably not what you were thinking of, eh?

-- Dog Gone (layinglow@rollover.now), July 15, 1999.


Know just how you feel, Feeling. I have resigned myself to going it alone.

-- not this time (justlurking@ho.me), July 15, 1999.

Dog Gone

Ha ha!!!!! Thanks - you made me laugh. Gee. Prison dudes. Well at least they would have a healthy disrespect for authority. Probably fairly knowledgable about using firearms too.

CB - too bad you're so far away. We could at least swap Y2k dating war stories even if we didn't fall madly in love with each other and open a joint prepping account.

DJ - '96? Ouch. I guess there are a few advantages to Getting It so late.

-- Feeling Shy (Single@Y2k.gal), July 15, 1999.


How about giving vague answers ("oh, just working in the kitchen.") ("Just getting ahead on my cooking.") ("Housework.") until you have dated long enough to know if the guy is worth anything more? Somewhere along the line, mention Y2K (just not on the first date!) Form it as a question ("Hey, did you see that show on TV last night about Washington, DC, not being able to function after the first of the year because their computers won't work?") This gives you a fix on where he is at. If he is totally DGI, is fun to be with? Will he "do" for company until Christmas?

Can you invite him home without him having to navigate through the buckets? If not, don't bring him home!

Find a neutral area of conversation for "chit-chat." If you are so "into" Y2K that you have no other small talk, get him to talk. ("Hey, how about them [whatever his favorite local team is]?)

Feminine wiles will go a long way to prevent an early confrontation!

8^)

Gypsy

-- Gypsy (GypsiGold@aol.com), July 15, 1999.


Gypsy,

That won't work for me because the first question is usually "What do you do for a living?". And my answer is always "Computer programming". See my problem? The next question always seems to be about Y2K.

By the way I live in Jacksonville, FL.

DJ

-- DJ (reality@check.com), July 15, 1999.



(Ahem...) Mr. Mike has been a GI since St. Gary's first newsletter (Nov 1996, I think). It is just as difficult for a GI guy to get a date. Esp. one who has my smouldering sensuality, sparkling and witty personality, and dynamic outlook on life. Not everyone can be as mature, normal, and emotionally stable as I am. OK, I hope you all got a laugh outta that!

-- Mr.Mike (mikeabn@aol.com), July 15, 1999.

DJ, Maybe you could toss it back: "What do you think of it?" (This gets you a fix on his attitude.)

or

Pick a neutral response: "No one really knows what will happen; I'm guessing like everyone else. What do you do for a living?" (Distraction of some sort is best!)

I've been out of the dating loop for a while (and can't imagine wanting to get back there) but a little mystery never used to hurt a girl!

Gypsy

-- Gypsy (GypsiGold@aol.com), July 15, 1999.


Greetings Feeling Shy!

I hope you realize that you'll probably get flamed alot on this subject. If memory serves me right, a guy posted a thread similar to this back a few months ago and let me tell ya he got tore a new one!

However, I totally agree with you on this. I've pretty much given up on the dating scene,decided to utilize time and resources on preps instead. I know all about being lonely, look at this way, there very well may be alot of us out there next year in the same boat! True, it would be so nice to have someone to cuddle up with beneath the petromax lantern in a double sleeping bag. Sharing our minds and learning from each other in a very troubled time of our lives. The need for companionship weighs heavily on a single soul, we were not designed to be alone. Alas(huge sigh!), I shall coutinue in my quest!

Single guy in the woods down in northeast Ga., no spam please, got plenty already!

Take care Feeling!

-- Ex-Marine (Digging In@Home.com), July 15, 1999.


Can I PLEASE say it before he does? Feeling Shy: Do you like to mudwrestle? Sorry...just had to get that out of my system.

-- Anita (spoonera@msn.com), July 15, 1999.

Anita!

You are SO twisted!!!!

;^)

Dennis

-- Dennis (djolson@pressenter.com), July 15, 1999.


:-D :-D :-D

Anita, that was great! You *do* have a sense of humor!

-- Elbow Grease (LBO Grise@aol.com), July 15, 1999.


Feeling shy--- Try this place, even if you don't find someone to hook up with for y2k, you might end up with a good penpal or even a few laughs: http://www.ashley.matchmaker.com/systems

Ashley's Place is a fun one---don't know about the others

-- kat (not@saying.net), July 15, 1999.


Anita,

If I thought mud wrestling would bring me a Y2k savvy guy with a stash of preps, a strong back, a sharp mind and a soft heart then I would be out digging a mud pit right now.

-- Feeling Shy (Single@y2k.gal), July 15, 1999.


Better than curling up with a guy is curling up with a book. The more books you curl up with, the less interesting guys will become. Dead authors, in particular, are easy to love.

"What are you doing?"

"Reading. Perusing. Am I denied even that in my own home?"

-- Reader (reading@read.com), July 15, 1999.


Feeling Shy, you may have come to the right place, but you better find yourself a real e-mail addy (e.g., hotmail), so someone can contact you, still anonymously. Last spring, our own Patrick Shannon shared a personal ad he was about to publish, and caught the attention of a lurker on this forum. He didn't share any details beyond the first get-together, but it sounded as though it had potential. I share your angst about not enough GI guys out there!

-- Brooks (brooksbie@hotmail.com), July 15, 1999.

Felling Shy,

I'm 45, 6'1" 200 lbs. I'm the Service Manager, and IT head for a large Mobile Home Dealership on S. Oregon coast. I Restore old Porsches for fun, and of course, love to camp. I live in a resort that is walking distance of the best bottom fishing in the world. Got Elk, Deer, Quail, Grouse, and Turkey running around in my yard. Year around Greenhouse, and grav. fed water.

Are you a Troll?

-- CT (ct@no.yr), July 15, 1999.


I don't know if Feeling Shy is a troll or not. I met my husband on the Internet. It can be done! (Happily, I might add.)

-- Sally Strackben (sally@y2kkitchen.com), July 15, 1999.

Ps,,,

Open for 12/1999.

-- CT (ct@no.yr), July 15, 1999.


Oh, man! You guys have GOT to keep us all posted. If we aren't all toast, we would make one hell of a wedding party!

-- Helen (sstaten@fullnet.net), July 15, 1999.

If we aren't toast, ya think they'll get more grain grinders or toasters for presents?

-- flora (***@__._), July 15, 1999.

And you're complaining about not being able to spell or type! I average six backspaces per sentence - and at least four or five missed misspelling's and swapped typo's..

Hmmmn. Been out of the dating game for more years than I ever was single, certainly much longer than I was ever in the dating game. Don't think I can help much with the personal ad's - but h**l - that's never stopped me from butting in before.....

Try: hardware stores, radio shack, Sears, Home Depot, Lowes, or other "home" stores.

Small talk? Skip it - ask him something relevent but without even mentioning the "2000" word: Solar power, wood stoves, how to get hot water, home heating. Water supplies, how to cook, or whatever.

Go to a golf shop - ask how long it takes to discharge one of "these" (deep cycle batteries)? What kind of recharger do you recommend? What about spilled battery acid?

In a Northern Hydraulics store - ask about their water pumps - but say why. Immediately. Or in a sporting goods, camping, or "outdoors" store - ask about sleeping bags, socks, or thermals - too intimate? (as if thermal underwearr is intimate!) ask about their lanterns, cooking gear, or parkas.

After all - ya gotta consider the what's-in-it-for-me condition. I'm guessing you need a wood-sawer, stove filler, oil lantern lighter, water-barrel mover, right? Cause us preparer-types probably aren't your average run-to-the--bar pickup either. Four wheeler - maybe. Pickup - maybe. but most would put a cover on the pickup, and would worry about gas mileage rather than beer mileage.

-- Robert A Cook, PE (Kennesaw, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), July 15, 1999.


Why Robert, you're a regular Cyrano! Any more suggestions?

-- Brooks (brooksbie@hotmail.com), July 15, 1999.

Oh King, where are you? This could be your chance!

-- sue (deco100@aol.com), July 15, 1999.

Hi Feeling Shy, I've been following Y2K very regularly since 2/98. Started serious preps about a year ago, little by little, and still have more to do. Prior to 2/98 I was out a couple nights a week dancing and socializing. Then, for over a year nothing but Y2K seemed important. I had so much printed info from the internet on Y2K that I was drowning in it at home. It seemed like I ate, drank, and slept Y2K. But I figured there was a deep down reason why I had to keep pressing on. However, after a year and a half I have gone through burnout for the last couple months, but just recently have gotten motivated again to finish my preps. It's been hard because as a single woman, I haven't had hardly anyone to work closely with on this. Fortunately, I do have a few close Y2K friends that I can talk with on the phone, email, and share ideas with, but none of whom I can share my life with. I, too, mentioned Y2K upfront with a few men I met and when I saw they didn't GI, I immediately crossed them off my list. I felt I didn't have time to try to teach them all that I had learned. I needed someone who at least had graduated from Y2K University -- didn't have to have a Ph.D. but at least a Bachelor's in it. About 6 months ago I ran a personal ad here in Pittsburgh in a major paper. Got about 3 replies -- mostly curiosity seekers. Maybe it was too soon. I'm thinking of trying it again. Something else you might try. Matchmaker has a dating site. I access it by www.pittsburgh.matchmaker.com. You might try inserting your closest major city where I put mine. It costs about $13/month. You answer questions in an essay form. It is very neat how it is set up. Some people even have photos on line. You could mention Y2K in one of the essay answers. Plus, you give yourself a "handle" and you could maybe call it Y2K-Sally, or something. That might get some attention from someone in your location who is like-minded. I am really surprised how many people are online at this site. It is also quite interesting how you can search for people who match your interests. I just joined about 2 weeks ago, but in my ad I am emphasizing more that I am looking for a conservative political gentleman who is also a Christian. If I get that far, then I will eventually get around to Y2K. I am just going forward the best I can, and making the best preparations I can by myself. As it gets closer to December, I truly think we single, Y2K-savvy women will be a very valuable commodity, and I think there will be some good men out there who will appreciate all our hard work. Lots of luck to you.

-- Y2K Suzi (Healthy53@hotmail.com), July 15, 1999.

Ooh, a GI romance involving Feeling Shy and CT?!? Keep us posted Feeling Shy.

-- newbiebutnodummy (Linda@home.com), July 15, 1999.

Feeling Shy, it is obvious that you are probably feeling confused about now with all this conflicting advice on what to do. Some of it highly dangerous, such as becoming involved with convicts, service managers, and psycho marines. And the last thing you want to do is withdraw and read books, that hardly will prepare you for what is ahead.

You need a complete lifestyle change. One that will satisfy you now, as well as for what is ahead in just a few scant months. You need a challenging vocation that will allow you to become all that you can be.

The absolute guaranteed way to change your life to the one that you have always wanted is to enter the exotic world of Female Mudwrestling. (Plus, no matter how bad things get, you can always count on guys paying big bucks to see a good catfight.) Like the beautiful, self assured women that adorn the covers of classy magazines like FIGHTING FEMALES, the road to being a mudwrestling superstar is a combination of looks, luck, and experience. I can give you -- and other women like yourself -- that valuable experience. All it takes is the will to believe in yourself, the courage to wear a bikini, and the spunk to really get it on.

I can, even through the cold medium of the Internet, feel you heart racing as you read these words. You know that you have, just within your grasp, something that is truly what you have dreamed of to be yours. Don't let what may be your only opportunity for complete satisfaction pass you by. Especially with so few months left before what is coming.

Let me be privileged to help you fulfill your dreams. Say yes to mudwrestling.

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.com), July 15, 1999.

Oh brother - now you've put me on the spot!

I figure a Get-It guy would probably be a reader - not a TV watcher, not a movie goer, not party-goer/barhopper - or where-ever mid-twenties/mid-thirties go these evenings. (Those kind of people don't take the time to analyze things, to do the in-depth patient study needed to get below the surface appearance put out by the administration and come to some conclusions on their own. I'm no help - I go to band rehearsals, music lessons, the library, band parent meeting, scout leader meetings, the mall - if they have what I need -, the hardware store, the auto shop, radio shack, the grocery store, the computer store, etc.

I figure a Git-It guy will be more quiet than most, probably will watch and listen rather than be at the center of attetnion. (Look for the quiet one on the edge of the crowd who is obviously bored with the man speaking.) Most will be more reserved, more quiet than they will be aggresive - perhaps even shy. So GO ASK HIM. Ask him what he thinks, let him talk or recommend something. He probably won't say something first, but will have listened to eveything you've done since you entered the room/store/library/shopping mall. (Told you he observes things - that's WHY he's a Git-It.

Most GI's probably won't be advertising they understand and are preparing for possible y2k disruptions. Why do I say this?

Think of everybody's first few "behaviors" - first: study, analysi, and understanding. Then "I've got to prepare" - so they "get things" - This involves more research and reading and experimentation - see why I say library/bookstore/hardware store/outdoor/camping store? The next is a growing awareness of "if I am preparing, why isn't everybosy else? Soon followed by: "If I prepare and nobody else does, then "they" will come and take my stuff."

The first reaction after this realization goes in two directions: "I need to defend what I have (which involves first "hiding" what I have - and becoming more reserved that before. ) and second involved an increased interest in defending "home. heart, and heat" - hence the interest in many here in guns and defense topics - thus the administration's tactics in gun control become relevent to y2k preparations.

Continued below.

The second reaction is the reverse: if more neighbors are prepared, the less I have to fear from "them" - but training and public speaking/public talking (to neighbors and friends) involves infintely greater exposure to potential public ridicule, fear, and public humiliation. (It is obviously is the road less taken.) NEVER underestimate the role of "fear" of public ridicule - preparations not exposed - if (best case) not needed - are never exposed, hence the "hider" can blend in with everybody else who is relaxing in front of their TV's next Jan 02. Another reason to avoid public exposure of a GI to the fact that they are preparing.

So, I suspect you will find few "open" GI's who will "talk first" and carry a small stick. Roosevelt's "speak softly" is more likely. The preparer's will probably already have the stick. That's why they are preparer's, not reacter's.

On the other hand - every preparer remains uncertain and also fearful - that he/she is not preparing the right way, preparing for right things, doing the right thing to prepare at all, or may be preparing for too short, too long, the wrong problem, etc. The fears and uncertainity CANNOT be avoided or minimized except through knowledge and confirmation.

So, now that you've gotten this far about all this philosophy and social behavior - back to what's in it for me? Since you are looking for somebody who disagrees witht he common crowd, and who is not going to be obvious about exposing his preparations - told you I'd link these together - you've go to go where uncommon people hang out looking for people who share their beliefs - so those beliefs are re-affirmed.

Go to a hunting store, an NRA meeting, a political meeting of (Republican or Liberatians - I doubt you'll ever find a GI Democrat!) or to a gun safety class (ASK at the police station for them to recommend a place! But ONLY if you want to meet public-minded young males who are physically fit and know public responses, who are trained already to anticipate trouble.) or a "unusual" weapons class or unusual skills class - bow hunting, rappelling (GO to the fire station and ASK - but agin only if you want to find the young, physically fit guys who are trained....), rock climbing (a little too "politically correct" nowdays) or sailing. Auto repairing class? A bit of a rach - but small engine repair - defintely! A after-hours computer users meeting? Maybe. The computer users may or may not be actually preparing - many are too theorectical to be practical at this stage.

NOT a politically correct thing like ballet, disco (or whatever has replaced it - swing/jive maybe?) but try a square dance lesson! The guys there are probably almost all older - but probably also 90% are preparing - based on the sqaure dancers I dance with. They'll point you towards others.

You've got to first find guys (who will be associated with these kind of things) - so go to places where these kind of guys are going.

then approach them with a on-topic/off-topic physical-problem-solving "thing" kind of question: how does this work, will this work, can I use this, how long does this kind of (water) filter last? What do you recommend for self-defence? How can I .... so you can first find out if they know anything; and second, find out if they are "approachable".

Only later ask if about specifics - (in the above, I think I skipped an important "Only ask later" about y2k involvement.....only when/if they begin believing and trusting you will they bring it up.

Let them teach you - while you learn about them. Any guy will want to talk to a sweet young thing. About things first - himself second. (Theoones not worth knowing will talk about himself first, things second.) If he's smart, he'll know this, and end up trying to get you to talk about yourself. Outsmart him. Let him talk about himself for a change.

The trick is keeping your own mouth shut. (At least long enough to let him put his foot in his mouth.)

-- Robert A Cook, PE (Kennesaw, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), July 15, 1999.


Oh brother - now you've put me on the spot!

I figure a Get-It guy would probably be a reader - not a TV watcher, not a movie goer, not party-goer/barhopper - or where-ever mid-twenties/mid-thirties go these evenings. (Those kind of people don't take the time to analyze things, to do the in-depth patient study needed to get below the surface appearance put out by the administration and come to some conclusions on their own. I'm no help - I go to band rehearsals, music lessons, the library, band parent meeting, scout leader meetings, the mall - if they have what I need -, the hardware store, the auto shop, radio shack, the grocery store, the computer store, etc.

I figure a Git-It guy will be more quiet than most, probably will watch and listen rather than be at the center of attetnion. (Look for the quiet one on the edge of the crowd who is obviously bored with the man speaking.) Most will be more reserved, more quiet than they will be aggresive - perhaps even shy. So GO ASK HIM. Ask him what he thinks, let him talk or recommend something. He probably won't say something first, but will have listened to eveything you've done since you entered the room/store/library/shopping mall. (Told you he observes things - that's WHY he's a Git-It.

Most GI's probably won't be advertising they understand and are preparing for possible y2k disruptions. Why do I say this?

Think of everybody's first few "behaviors" - first: study, analysi, and understanding. Then "I've got to prepare" - so they "get things" - This involves more research and reading and experimentation - see why I say library/bookstore/hardware store/outdoor/camping store? The next is a growing awareness of "if I am preparing, why isn't everybosy else? Soon followed by: "If I prepare and nobody else does, then "they" will come and take my stuff."

The first reaction after this realization goes in two directions: "I need to defend what I have (which involves first "hiding" what I have - and becoming more reserved that before. ) and second involved an increased interest in defending "home. heart, and heat" - hence the interest in many here in guns and defense topics - thus the administration's tactics in gun control become relevent to y2k preparations.

Continued below.

The second reaction is the reverse: if more neighbors are prepared, the less I have to fear from "them" - but training and public speaking/public talking (to neighbors and friends) involves infintely greater exposure to potential public ridicule, fear, and public humiliation. (It is obviously is the road less taken.) NEVER underestimate the role of "fear" of public ridicule - preparations not exposed - if (best case) not needed - are never exposed, hence the "hider" can blend in with everybody else who is relaxing in front of their TV's next Jan 02. Another reason to avoid public exposure of a GI to the fact that they are preparing.

So, I suspect you will find few "open" GI's who will "talk first" and carry a small stick. Roosevelt's "speak softly" is more likely. The preparer's will probably already have the stick. That's why they are preparer's, not reacter's.

On the other hand - every preparer remains uncertain and also fearful - that he/she is not preparing the right way, preparing for right things, doing the right thing to prepare at all, or may be preparing for too short, too long, the wrong problem, etc. The fears and uncertainity CANNOT be avoided or minimized except through knowledge and confirmation.

So, now that you've gotten this far about all this philosophy and social behavior - back to what's in it for me? Since you are looking for somebody who disagrees witht he common crowd, and who is not going to be obvious about exposing his preparations - told you I'd link these together - you've go to go where uncommon people hang out looking for people who share their beliefs - so those beliefs are re-affirmed.

Go to a hunting store, an NRA meeting, a political meeting of (Republican or Liberatians - I doubt you'll ever find a GI Democrat!) or to a gun safety class (ASK at the police station for them to recommend a place! But ONLY if you want to meet public-minded young males who are physically fit and know public responses, who are trained already to anticipate trouble.) or a "unusual" weapons class or unusual skills class - bow hunting, rappelling (GO to the fire station and ASK - but agin only if you want to find the young, physically fit guys who are trained....), rock climbing (a little too "politically correct" nowdays) or sailing. Auto repairing class? A bit of a rach - but small engine repair - defintely! A after-hours computer users meeting? Maybe. The computer users may or may not be actually preparing - many are too theorectical to be practical at this stage.

NOT a politically correct thing like ballet, disco (or whatever has replaced it - swing/jive maybe?) but try a square dance lesson! The guys there are probably almost all older - but probably also 90% are preparing - based on the sqaure dancers I dance with. They'll point you towards others.

You've got to first find guys (who will be associated with these kind of things) - so go to places where these kind of guys are going.

then approach them with a on-topic/off-topic physical-problem-solving "thing" kind of question: how does this work, will this work, can I use this, how long does this kind of (water) filter last? What do you recommend for self-defence? How can I .... so you can first find out if they know anything; and second, find out if they are "approachable".

Only later ask if about specifics - (in the above, I think I skipped an important "Only ask later" about y2k involvement.....only when/if they begin believing and trusting you will they bring it up.

Let them teach you - while you learn about them. Any guy will want to talk to a sweet young thing. About things first - himself second. (Theoones not worth knowing will talk about himself first, things second.) If he's smart, he'll know this, and end up trying to get you to talk about yourself. Outsmart him. Let him talk about himself for a change.

The trick is keeping your own mouth shut. (At least long enough to let him put his foot in his mouth.)

-- Robert A Cook, PE (Kennesaw, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), July 15, 1999.


Try this Y2K Personals site. I know someone who has met several people on-line there, with apparently good enough results to meet one of them in real life.

-- Steve Heller (stheller@koyote.com), July 15, 1999.

Dear Feeling Shy, I forgot to mention above that tomorrow morning I am spending 3-4 hours being certified in the use of the pistol I bought. (If there's time, we're also going to go over my rifle & shotgun, but I think I may have to get together again with him). The instructor said he would sponsor me into his gun club. He said quite a few women were joining these days. As Mr. Cook said above, those are the kinds of places you want to go. Any man who understands Y2k knows that you have to have knowledge of firearms. By the way, I got my instructor's name from a local gun shop.

-- Y2K Suzi (healthy53@hotmail.com), July 15, 1999.

...perhaps if you didn't wear the tinfoil hat and the bag-lady outfit...

-- Y2K Pro (2@641.com), July 15, 1999.

Someone I work with was getting plenty of dates from his personal ad on the net, until he finally had to add a qualifier: "Height must exceed circumference."

No more dates, sadly. A word to the wise.

-- Flint (flintc@mindspring.com), July 15, 1999.


I am a single female GI with similar issues. (Actually, I have my hat set for Mr. Decker - lol.) No I am NOT a troll and I haven't mud-wrestled...yet. I am a regular GI and, as explained, this IS a genuine problem. With the world turned upside down, I think it brings women back to face the issue of strength and size.

Psychologically, I just would love to feel protected. Competition in the corporate world is a different ballgame than what we may be about to face. Homesteading is hard physical work and there are things that are difficult for a lone woman to do. And, in a one on one battle, a man has natural advantage of upper body strength and weight.

-- namewitheld (namewitheld@byrequest.net), July 15, 1999.


I just LOVE a good romance. Anybody got any popcorn? :-)

-- Gayla (privacy@please.com), July 15, 1999.


Wow,

I am overwhelmed. I can't remember when I have laughed so hard. However, I also received lots of excellant advice. I am of course seriously considering the career in mud wrestling. It is a Y2k compliant sport after all. I like Pro's idea of the little tin foil hat. It would add quite the touch to my outfit.

Sadly my wrestling career will have to wait until I have finished prepping and I don't dare abandon my chickens.

All kidding aside, I do feel the need to defend my honor and say that I have been called many things but never "troll." I'm a real person dealing with a real dillemma and I feel so much better knowing I'm not the only one experiencing this phenomenon.

-- Feeling Shy (feelingshy@hotmail.com), July 16, 1999.


I asked my wife if I could have sex with you and she's not really crazy about the idea..........however, if you're reasonbly cute and want to meet me in a hotel in an exotic location, I'll do what I can........hahahaha....

-- Craig (craig@ccinet.ab.ca), July 16, 1999.

Hi Feeling Shy, I'm a NW single GI. Been prepping since 97! Write me if you wish. I'd be glad to hear from you.Seattle area! We might at least compare notes and paranoia 8-) Tim

-- Tim Johnson (timca@webtv.net), July 16, 1999.

Hello, Ms. Shy,

Maybe this will be of some help. http://www.garysouth.com/romance.html Well, it does help to have a sense of humor.

[The Y2K Survivalist --- Love And Breeding Forum

Today is the last Valentine's Day the world will ever see.

So ladies, forget about flowers and romance. That's dead. Time is short, so now you had better focus on the serious business of finding a Survival Mate. Someone to stand by your side after the coming Y2K apocalypse. Someone who can procreate and feed litters of offspring. Someone with hairy legs and a thick beard to provide warmth on cold unheated nights. Someone who can bring down a deer with a bowie knife while simultaneously spitting chewing tobacco into the eyeball of an on-rushing raider. Yes, this is the kind of woman who will be desirable after Y2K. Men, in contrast, will be desirable for their strict adherence to Christian Reconstructionist values. They'll be God's representative to the family. Thus they will be rated in accordance with their ability to give good directions and provide moral fiber.]

And for those of you who know the Gary North forum but are not familiar with Gary South http://www.garysouth.com/ spend a couple of hours---or until your abs hurt from laughing. Thank me later.

Hallyx

"There comes a point where you have to stand up to reality....and deny it." --- Garrison Kiellor

-- (Hallyx@aol.com), July 16, 1999.


Flint

Classic!!! LOL!

Deano

-- Deano (deano@luvthebeach.com), July 16, 1999.


Feeling Shy,

What are you wearing? No, wait a minute, that's for that other web site. Allow me to speak for bachelors everywhere. Whip up some of those beans and rice you've got stocked up. Throw in a big heaping plate of pork chops(or the equivalent), and he's yours. We real men have very simple needs and one of them is a full belly. The other one is ...UHHH, hold on a second, I'm picturing it in my mind.

Whew, lost my train of thought there for a second.

On a more serious note, do get a weapon and weapons training. Then if a man named Decker ever comes up and hits on you you'll know what to do. I can't stress enough that this is a life and death situation as you're likely to get inundated by an Ego Tsunami. DO NOT fire a warning shot.

It's too bad, but I fear we have two things preventing a budding romance. Distance and the fact that you seem entirely too sane to be interested in me.(grin)

RB (who attracts crazy chicks like moths to a flame)

-- RB (R@AR.ST), July 16, 1999.


Shy, since you are getting done with the prep stage, soon you will reach stage eight - when you realize that a lot of the stuff you now believe was based on rumour. When you reach that stage, you will quit being obsessed with Y2K, drop off the forums, and start getting out again. Just takes a little more time - I'd guess about another month for you.

-- Paul Davis (davisp1953@yahoo.com), July 16, 1999.

Pssst! Paul - You won't get a date with Feeling Shy by playing DGI, er... hard-to-get...

-- Who me (wh@t.ever), July 16, 1999.

'nother love story I just thought folks might get a kick out of this...

:)

-- y2k (matchesmade@personals.network), July 16, 1999.


Well I read the thread which y2k listed above and found out all about Pshannons good fortune. I must say I am impressed and encouraged. I will put an ad in the local paper and see what happens.

Kind, sweet, fiesty, Y2k compliant, 100 pound, 38 yr old woman on the lookout for a compassionate, smart, happy, healthy Y2k compliant man. I can cook the best lasagna you ever tasted, bake bread from scratch and find edible plants in the woods. I like to read, camp, dance, river kayak and canoe on Lake Teotwawki.

-- Feeling Shy (feelingshy@hotmail.com), July 16, 1999.


FS,

You should try my Ham Shanks and beans, or my cheese, brok, and rice, with Ling Cod fillets, and drop bisckets, with Blackberry preserves. My smoked Salmon, and Tuna have rave reveiws. I make a world class Chile, and a great Elk stew. I also make Jerky that you can sharpen and use as a weapon.

-- CT (ct@no.yr), July 16, 1999.


No, no, no, no. You're working too hard at selling yourself. We KNOW you're good, you're just trying to find somebody else "good enough".

So, stop at the first line - and I'd agree with your decision to put the 38 after the 100 lbs. Well, add cooking in there too, I guess.

Now that you've established your credentials - and those are the only ones that count 8<) - (he's going to stop reading after that much anyway, or immediately call), you need to state your requirements: make those explicit, but leave some wiggle room - er, negotiating room - but leave the implied wiggle in there.

For example: "Looking for alternative ways to keep warm next January and February..."

-- Robert A Cook, PE (Kennesaw, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), July 16, 1999.


CT,

So e-mail me already so we can swap recipes in private. Unless you want to continue to flirt in front of every TB2000 lurker in the world. For all we know Kosiken is reading this right now wondering if you and I will ever meet.

-- Feeling Shy (feelingshy@hotmail.com), July 16, 1999.


Well, first of all, it's a little too late to get a date now, unless you're in town. If so, rap on my door, and we'll go dancin'.

After all this, I guess I'll have to put in my last 2 cents. I'm about to go offline...maybe for good. Here's what LP is/was:

53 Single No dependents Combat vet (RVN 1968, 1969, 1970) Electronician (experience and training in most fields, pun intended) College (microwave electronics, physics, cum laude) Ham KC7LVZ Handloader, shooter, gunsmith Outdoorsman, including 18 months in the Oregon Cascades...no RV

I've seen crisis. I've seen death. I've seen panic. I've been panicked. But I survived it.

I'm a GI (getit, not Gov. Issue...that's long over) since last July...maybe a year. I'm about to pull up stakes from So. Oregon to one of the places I just got back from looking over. I'll be on line until about mid-August. If I had to do it (again), I could survive on what the wild lands have to offer. There's a lot there. All you have to know is how to get it without PO-ing off the people (both 4 legged and 2 legged) that live there. I know how.

'Nuff said.

If you want to talk, let me know. This email works:

diddlewit@yahoo.com

LP -aka- soldog@nohotmail.com

73

-- LP (soldog@nohotmail.com), July 17, 1999.


"Some of it highly dangerous, such as becoming involved with ...psycho marines."

King of Spain,

Watch it with that "psycho Marines" stuff.

You don't want to get any of us mad at you.

Trust me.

-- LP (soldog@nohotmail.com), July 17, 1999.


FS,

I'm working on a way that we can get together and swap recipes, but as I'm a hunted man by cpr and his crowd, you can understand my fears.

Give me a day,

-- CT (ct@no.yr), July 17, 1999.


LP,

do you like to mudwrestle?

-- Queen of Spain (queen@thecastle.org), July 17, 1999.


FS:

Is there a Barnes & Noble near where you live? I think if you hang out in an appropriate section (outdoor recreation, homesteading, cookbooks, whatever), you might run into someone. You could join a food co-op--lots of GIs there. You could take auto repair classes, too. Go to Neighborhodo Watch meetings. Gun classes are a great idea, and King of Spain is the most respected female mudwrestling promoter on this forum.

When I was divorced, I had my best luck in the wine section at the supermarket (but you have to know a little about wine)! Wine shops are no good, there's always a knowledgeable sales clerk to spoil your conversation. Gourmet cheese departments are good too. Because you go shopping several times a week, you also become on first-name terms with the manager and cashiers, not a bad development if the power ever goes out and they can't take your credit card or check out your check. . .

If I were still divorced and wanted to find a GI date, these are the places I would go. Oh--two more: air shows, boat shows--rent a kid and go. Adventure/outdoor (possibly GI) types in abundance.

Good luck to all you single types out there!

-- Old Git (anon@spamproblems.com), July 17, 1999.


Old Git,

Thanks for the lovely advice. I have already done all those things as part of my normal life. I live in a very small community. Everybody at the co-op already knows my name. As do the guys at the service stations, the hardware supply and the camping gear shops. All the people my age seem to be married but me. Hence my despair now. I talk to nice guys all the time. Too bad they are all so happily attached to their mates ;-)

King of Spain

On careful reflection I think I will have to forego the mud wrestling career. Although I am strong - I am petite - and doubt I would last more than 2 seconds in the ring with any of the bodacious babe super women that would be out to push my face in the mud. I will always think about what could have been though. I will just have to take my chances with the service managers and psycho marines.

CT

I promise you I am not cpr. I'm not even sure who that is. 6'1"? I have a definite weakness for tall mechanically-inclined guys that cook. If you can restore Porshes does that mean you can keep my antique Toyota pick-up running?

-- Feeling Shy (feelingshy@hotmail.com), July 17, 1999.


Hello feeling shy. Here is a link to my Y2K personal ad. If you decide to take out an ad, I suggest you pay for it to be featured. My ad is buried where no one can find it. Good hunting. Ad 270958 Address:http://ep.com/ep/mi.html?c=9929&v=1&ad=270958

-- Tim Johnson (timca@webtv.net), July 18, 1999.

"LP, do you like to mudwrestle? -- Queen of Spain"

My opponents don't.

-- LP (soldog@nohotmail.com), July 18, 1999.


FS,

Check your E-mail,

-- CT (ct@no.yr), July 18, 1999.


ok

:-)

-- Feeling less Shy (feelingshy@hotmail.com), July 18, 1999.


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