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From the debunkery:Re: Any Now For Something Completely Different: The IT Mindset And "Embeddeds" Monday, 12-Jul-1999 05:02:03
Cherri writes:
YES!!!! Stephen You put into words. If hardware has a problem you fix it, check it and go on with your life.
There are times when I "literally" kicked the middle pole of a mainframe to get something to work and that fixed it. The entire thing had been taken apart and most parts replaced many time, but the only thing that fixed it was to kick it.
Now this WAS on an old analog computer full of vacume tubes and relay logic and humongius servo systems.
Cherri
I think they call it "Fram on Failure". To be the basis of her "polly piece". LOL
-- a (a@a.a), July 12, 1999
Damn I wish Cherri had enough time to show us her reply to Cory. She must be to busy talking in circles to do that.
-- O.J. (OJSimpson@jailhouse.com), July 12, 1999.
Oh, cool. Next time my mainframe burns for whatever reason, I'll just Tae-bo that baby right back into production. The operators will just love this........
-- Lisa (lisa@work.now), July 12, 1999.
What a bunch of pathetic losers. I feel sorry for anyone you extremists come in contact with.
-- You have (no@honor.atall), July 12, 1999.
To bad this does not, as a rule, work with people's heads.
-- ..- (dit@dot.dash), July 12, 1999.
'You have':OK, who gotcha riled up: it had to be a, OJ or me.
What did we say wrong.......... can't apologize unless we know...
-- lisa (lisa@work.now), July 12, 1999.
Gee Cherri -Glad to hear things are well with you.
Everytime a Polly speaks, I realize how deeply mired we are in blind complacency. They cannot see, will not see, and don't want you to see.
No amount of proof, information, or sewage spills will change that.
They visualise only within thier little boxes and can't see that there are horizons beyond thier own walls.
Too bad, too sad
Bob P
-- Bob P (rpilc99206@aol.com), July 12, 1999.
[Reviewing forum "guidelines" here. Let's see, nope. nope. nope. lol. nope. huh-uh.]That does it! I'm telling! You guys are in deep trouble now! HEY DIANNNNNNNE!!!
(Whoops. Sorry 'bout that. The childishness on this thread must have been contagious.)
-- CD (not@here.com), July 12, 1999.
Oh, cool. Next time my mainframe burns for whatever reason, I'll just Tae-bo that baby right back into production. The operators will just love this........Are you always this stupid?
Poole and Cherri were talking about embeddeds not mainframes. They're not the same thing.
-- A-Doobie (doobie@doo.net), July 13, 1999.
MAY I HAVE THIS DANCE????
-- litefoot. (dogs@zianet.com), July 13, 1999.
It's right up there, stupid, look --If hardware has a problem you fix it, check it and go on with your life.
There are times when I "literally" kicked the middle pole of a mainframe to get something to work and that fixed it. The entire thing had been taken apart and most parts replaced many time, but the only thing that fixed it was to kick it.
Do you see embedded anywhere in there??? Exactly. Now go back to bed before your mommy finds you playing unsupervised with the computer.
-- OutingsR (us@here.yar), July 13, 1999.
Gee, Guess I won't tell you about the trick I used with the magnet and the TV screen.
-- Cherri (sams@brigadoon.com), July 13, 1999.
Reminds me of years ago (about 30) when I had to cold boot the 1st generation Honeywell machine we had. Vacuum tubes anywheres from 6" to 24" tall. Behind each cabinet door there hung a little rubber coated brass-hammer that you had to use to "tap 3 times" on the top of each of the Power tubes to knock off the scale in the grids to the bottom of the tubes. It would look like it was raining little irridescent rain drops inside for a second or two. This was SOP in the cold start-up procedure of this machine. Maybe Cheri managed to knock the right tube!BTW, the computer room was just under 50 degrees with the mainframe shut-down. Once that machine was going full-tilt the cr temp was almost 80 degrees.
Yours in COBOL... Dino!
-- (COBOL_Dinosaur@yahoo.com), July 13, 1999.
Thank you COBOL for making this useless thread have SOME meaning.
-- I hate (pathetic@losers.likeoutings), July 13, 1999.
The only contribution Dino has had is to reveal how truly pathetic the situation actually is. The fact that not only do we have unremediated systems, but that they are still using vacuum tubes, is a point only a true pollyanna could find solace in.
-- a (a@a.a), July 13, 1999.
If that's a fact a, then name one unremediated system using vacuum tubes.
-- Believer (facts@r.us), July 13, 1999.
ATC's computers that have not been replaced with the "new Y2K compliant but crashing IBM's". They are are compliant, but ancient.Note to Cobol Dino
PLATES!!!
-- Cherri (sams@brigadoon.com), July 13, 1999.
My wasn't thatLarge.
-- reducer (putting@fonts.ondiets), July 13, 1999.
Oh, ok.... so it's steel plates in the ol' noggin' that are responsible for the polly-spaz. Compounded with CME - right! diBunki is actually a steel-plate-in-head support group! OK, OK, I'm catchin' on, slowly...
-- Lisa (lisa@work.now), July 13, 1999.
filiments and plates Cobol and a rare few others would understand. Old OLD mainframes using vacume tubes. You leave filiments on most of the time and when you power up the rest of it you yell at the top of your lungs (down the long endless halls of the mainframe (grin) "Plates"!!! Oh well, you would have had to be there to understand. Kinda like not pointing in ~ pointng in please, or "Bad boys rape our young girls but violet gave willingly". I learned that when I was eleven. That is the ditty used to remember the electronic color code. Black = 0, brown = 1, red = 2, orange = 3, yellow = 4, green = 5, blue = 6, violet = 7, gray = 8, white = 9. Just a few basic things that a person needs to know to understand "embedded chips" and "embedded systems" or any electronic hardware.
None of which the so-called self apointed "embedded experts" on the web have the barest understanding or knowledge of. Yep the fact is they don't know what they are talking about. One little bit. It is so odd to watch people pretend to know something (that most people do not) and fake knowing it, they must have some fear that those who do know it will "bust" them. It makes me laugh, because they are so full of BS it is not worth bothering correcting them. Those who know the true facts do not care if people want to be gullable to every little thing "fakes" put out. There is no way to convince them it is not true. They do not know either. How do you prove physics to people who do not know physics? You do not. Time )2000) will be the final arbitrator.
-- Cherri (sams@brigadoon.com), July 14, 1999.
Lisa,I resent your refernce to spaz.
It so happens that I have a yournger brother with ceberal palsey (spastic) and he has made more out of his life than some of the people on theis forum apear to have. Spastic jokes are like ethnic jokes which are like sexist jokes which are like dead baby jokes. NONE of which are funny. If you feel the need to belittle others because of their physical disabilities to build up your own ego, you have some serious ego problems. Which makes you pathetic. Are you 13 years old?
-- Cherri (sams@brigadoon.com), July 14, 1999.
I'm sorry, Cherri. I really don't have a mean bone in my body.. "Spaz" was not a reference to any disorder/malady.Sincere apologies.
-- Lisa (lisa@work.now), July 14, 1999.
Plates - yes - you are right! I _sit_ corrected.. :-)I should have known better than to utter the word =grid= on this forum! :-)
Yours in COBOL... Dino!
P.S. Cherri, I liked the pink font better than the LARGE..
-- (COBOL_Dinosaur@yahoo.com), July 14, 1999.
Lisa, apology accepted *smile*Dino, the cathose is the filiment, the anode is the plates and the grid surrounds the cathode..I think...
a, I would also hit the TV when the volume went down to fix it. Just in a certain spot.
-- Cherri (sams@brigadoon.com), July 14, 1999.