why we need a y2k

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very few will understand.BUT it,s a spiritual-thing.it,s about the hypocricy of what,s called>christianity.the money-making phony so called CHURCH.the church that cares nothing for people. GOD said JUDGEMENT must begin in the church.FALSE christianity is doomed.the fat-cat minister,s and t.v evangelist,s are sweating y2k. they,re saying oh don,t worry'it,s nothing. don,t waste your MONEY PREPING. JUST KEEP SENDING US THOSE tithes and offerings, so we can MAINTAIN our LAVISH-LIFESTYLES.biuld those BIG super comfortable churches.put that money into stocks,[weapons of death] get that condo-in bahamas. drive that limo. fly 1st class.piss on the poor & suffering. I THINK Y2K WILL LEVEL-THE PLAYING FIELD.--TIME FOR CHANGE.

-- zooming-in. (dogs@zianet.com), July 10, 1999

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Confusing TV boobs with real christians is just a cop out.

It's the christian church that is feeding and clothing the world's poor. The reason the church works is that there are one heck of a lot of people (like myself) that donate money and especially time and expertise to missionary causes. Governments give the least to these causes, they generally are ineffective and provide the aid to late. Christians are motivated and genuinely concerned.

Instead of saying such foolish things, perhaps you should consider volunteering at an organization like 'World Concern'. There, you will find the true meaning of 'work' as you labor a long day sorting tons of donations (we're talking shiploads) for starving refugees in Kosovo. You will be paid nothing, but you might learn something.

Like it or not, it takes LARGE organizations to make a difference in a place like Kosovo. How exactly would YOU organize it? I'd suggest that you stop throwing stones and get involved.

Bryce

-- Bryce (bryce@seanet.com), July 10, 1999.


zooming-in:

The "TV boobs" evidently are considered by millions of TV-watching boobs to be "real" Christians. And the TV-watching and CONTRIBUTING boobs surely consider themselves to be "real" Christians.

Who are YOU to decide who is a "real" Christian? Maybe your "god" gets a big kick out watching the televangelists, for the entertainment value. Maybe YOU are not a real Christian according to other Christian wacko criteria.

As far as I'm concerned, the more a person believes in this b.s., the more wacko I consider them. You are evidently just as serious a wacko as the other boobs you are denigrating.

Y2K has NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING to do with the so-called Christian end times. Y2K is about computers, stupid. Not religious hallucinations.

-- A (A@AisA.com), July 10, 1999.


al-d, it is clear that you were scarred by a televangelist at an early age. It causes you to use a different name every time you post.

-- thought you left (thoughtyou@left.com), July 10, 1999.

Bryce,

Zooming-in knows what he is talking about. I've been kicked out of two "churches". Learn something from the Bible, present it to the "so-called" experts and press your point. Two responses I received from these hypocrites...

1) "You have a bad spiritual problem." Afterwards they told me..."Get out of my house, now!"

2) "You PRESUME to teach me. I was educated in the (cemetary...I mean) seminary."

Those self styled idiot preachers will have to pay for what they have and have not done. Read the following and then tell me God appreciates their lying efforts.

(Ezek 13:4 KJV) "O Israel,(that's USa) thy prophets (inspired ones) are like the foxes in the deserts."

(Ezek 13:5 KJV) "Ye have not gone up into the gaps, neither made up the hedge for the house of Israel to stand in the battle in the day of the LORD."

(Ezek 13:6 KJV) "They have seen vanity and lying divination, saying, The LORD saith: and the LORD hath not sent them: and they have made others to hope that they would confirm the word." (the false hope of the RAPTURE.)

(Ezek 13:7 KJV) "Have ye not seen a vain vision, and have ye not spoken a lying divination, whereas ye say, The LORD saith it; albeit I have not spoken?"

(Ezek 13:8 KJV) "Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because ye have spoken vanity, and seen lies, therefore, behold, I am against you, saith the Lord GOD."

(Ezek 13:9 KJV) "And mine hand shall be upon the prophets that see vanity, and that divine lies: they shall not be in the assembly of my people, neither shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, neither shall they enter into the land of Israel; and ye shall know that I am the Lord GOD."

If you're a preacher better stop and think...real hard.

-- Mark Hillyard (foster@inreach.com), July 10, 1999.


Dear bryce, i agree.would you not agree, there,s alot of ''good work,s done from '' right motives''but far too much done'or i should say far too little done, by those that are building, there OWN KINGDOM. my question, is> if the 1st church [book of ACTS of the apostles] didn,t find it necassary to BUILD fancy buildings[they met in homes] and had all things in common.they cared for the poor. DID JESUS ride around in a gold plated chariot? did he say, i can,t preach unless i have a big fancy building. sure i understand it takes money; to dothese type of OUTREACH MINISTRIES, but how much actually goes to the needy? AND WHY? do those at the[supposed] top in ministry need to live so lavishly? i mean gimme a break,something stinks.it,s a racket. all in the name of CHRIST. how did mother theresa LIVE? SHE WASN,T INTO LUXURY. Sorry but alot of what,s passed off as christianity, is just a easy ,soft life' comfy, make believe world.JESUS said GO INTO ALL the WORLD, not hide in church, and play church.''the comfort-zone'' JESUS didn,t hide in the temple.HE WAS out in public,meeting needs.

-- like i said. (dogs@zianet.com), July 10, 1999.


Y2K has NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING to do with the so-called Christian end times. Y2K is about computers, stupid. Not religious hallucinations.

-- A (A@AisA.com), July 10, 1999.

A,

Don't be to sure.

I've been wondering for many years, 25+, what it is that will cause this economy to come crashing down. I've know that it will die but I could not imagine what would cause it. The Bible predicts that the economy will go down in a very short time. I just wonder if it isn't the Y2K problem which is the "snare" spoken of which is set to take the Babylonian Economy down. Can't hardly wait to find out if this is it.

Be calm! We win!

-- Mark Hillyard (foster@inreach.com), July 10, 1999.


if y2k is JUST about computers, then why wasn,t it fixed,when there was time to fix it?--who,s really in control???--ever heard of 'lesson,s learned? just-a -thinker. yur pal.al

-- just a thought. (dogs@zianet.com), July 10, 1999.

Hello, dogs, Mark,

There are bad churches as well as bad organizations.. I wouldn't try to defend Tammy Fay, Jim Jones or others.

However, my wife and I ran three Kosovo drives. I was especially disapointed by contributions from co-workers of mine.. The Rich, if you will. Americans (of late) have not suffered and thus have no compassion. I really believe that those that don't suffer themself have no capacity for compassion. Y2K is in a sense, just an extension of selfishness, "don't take my power away", "don't take my lifestyle away", in the mean time a good portion of the world doesen't have power, running water or nutritious food right now.

I'd state that Apathy, not corruption is the problem with American christianity. The Christians I have worked with are the best people, the most clean hearted, selfless people I have ever known. The excuse I hear from the Apathetic includes "what if there is fraud", "what if the relief supplies are stolen by soldiers", "I can't make a difference", etc.

Here is a problem I see, in order to get on TV, it takes MONEY. A church/christian organization has to become VERY big to do it. Power corrupts. There are very good people out there like Kenneth Copeland, but always looming for the TV minister is the need to cover enormous expenses. I guess Christians could retreat from TV.. I don't think that's the solution either.

I suppose that one good thing about Y2K is that the smaller churches may become more effective than the large ones.

Mark, don't give up on Christian church just because you ran into two bad ones. Please. I'd pray about it, and ask God to lead you to a nurturing environment.

Bryce

-- Bryce (bryce@seanet.com), July 10, 1999.


Bryce, is it not true? hard times' reveal alot? in other words> WHO needs GOD when your in control?? it,s hard to be humble ,when your in control? didn,t JESUS say>pick up your cross & follow me.how many will sell there soul--for the anti-christ system?--the easy -WAY. hard -times=persecution ALWAY,S cleanses. sorta like a forest-fire.

-- y2k=separation. (dogs@zianet.com), July 10, 1999.

And the weekend madness continues!

-- (Oh,Jeeze@not.again!), July 10, 1999.


"Y2K WILL LEVEL-THE PLAYING FIELD"

I doubt that very much. Wealth will be redistributed and wealth will be lost. Power structures will always be a part of human interaction and there will never be a level field. The American system is remarkably good (yeah, I hear the growls at that assertion - I'm speaking relativistically - name 10 better modern societies or admit we're near the top). The more serious Y2K is the worse our society will be. The poorer people become the more materialistic they will become.

I've never had any religious/spiritual faith (thank god), but I must take exception to zooming's assertion that the church doesn't care. I expect many protestant church authorities fit the bill, and I despise the catholic church for various reasons. But for 3 years I worked with a christian agency that recieves the bulk of it's funds from Presbyterian and Methodist churches/church members. There are churches out there that do good work and help others to do good work. Zooming paints with too broad of a brush.

-- Gus (y2kk@usa.net), July 10, 1999.


thanks GUS, yes i admit'i sound like i,m condeming ALL things christian. not my intention. for years i,ve pondered the scripture''that states JUDGEMENT will begin with religeous so-called people of GOD. there are many TRUE lovers of GOD & mankind.BUTmost are NEVER KNOWN. they don,t have big NAME MINISTRIES.in my ho-i think there,s something bigger than a computer mistake, goin-on. i think we,re going to see more & more, big-time scary-stuff happen WORLDWIDE. IT SURE AIN,T A GETTING BETTER.--MAKES ME LOOK AT PROPHECY MORE.

-- yu-got it. (dogs@zianet.com), July 10, 1999.

i said once i was leaving this dump'but i changed
-- Liar (dogs@zianet.com), July 11, 1999.

i,m a big LIAR yu COWARD
-- LIAR (dogs@zianet.com), July 11, 1999.

hey fake ee, who pryed the lid-off your coffin?

-- realD. (dogs@zianet.com), July 11, 1999.




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-- (-@-.-), July 11, 1999.

YOUR FUTURE HAS BEEN A COMPLETE MYSTERY... For YOU are lucky enough to "live" in the End Times when the Word of Jehovah's Prime Ordinance has been made known to "Man"kind by the Primanimal SubGenius, the High Epopt of the Church! In the early Fifties an industrious young American drilling equipment salesman, while watching late-night TV, was abruptly Removed and transported astrally to the 'IDGE' of JEHOVAH 1 HIMSELF! In this seizure-like trance he took the brunt of the first brain-buffeting communionications of countless to come from the alien Jehovah: awesome pronouncements which form the sacred PRESCRIPTURES of the SubGenius (available for S19.98 at most bookstores!)

This milestone in Man's mined path to Slack was THE DIVINE EMACULATION OF J.R. "BOB" DOBBS!!

Who IS "Bob"?

While yet the least approachable or scrutable of the vast SubGenius membership, he is the preeminent and most frequently invoked of the god-zillion Personal Saviors of the SubGenius. While he remains an anonymous executive shunning publicity or recognition at a faceless multinational corporation, he is nevertheless The Most Ascended Master, the original Retriever of Jehovah's Message on Earth and basic model of the Archetype SubGenius. He set the "anti-pattern" of random conduct among all those who are now practicing SubGeniuses. His are the defects and peccadillos that we 'analize,' his the Slongs and Jests which we devotedly twist and distort for future generations according to our unexplored whims. - And yet the only photos of him that exist are grainy frame blow-ups from Grade Z movie thrillers in which he played bit parts! Dobbs is, of course, the ultimate symbol of SubGeniusness, but despite/because of his infrahuman mediumship he possesses one single failing above and beyond all other shortcomings: his omninclusive FOLLIES. Yet where they would be crippling stubbing-blocks for another person, in Dobbs they loom stranger-than-life. His ten billion all-too-human quasimodalities embody, in some cheaply symbolic way, all the Foibles of the Primate Race. Dobbs is a miacrocosm encapsulating the imperfektions of the so-called 'human condition;' his Blunders and Idiocies, errors and inadvertencies are perhaps more sacrosanct, more deserving of analitization than even his hallowed salesmanship. None of "Bob's" words or deeds are particularly spectacular: their holiness lies in their nondescript but inviolable triviality. As Dobbs once 'spouted,' "The stupider it looks, the more important it probably is." Since his Emaculation, Dobbs has been divinely shoved down the behavio-electric Path of Least Resistance to become the living incarnation of Slack on Earth. As mysteriously and profitably as he doles out his prophecies and cassette messages, he unfailingly (yet, perhaps, accidentally) enrichens himself with material things using only the exagerated human nature he was born with. Just as the Nazarene was a carpenter, so is "Bob" a salesman - the High Sales Man of the SubGenius - and whereas his stature as hero and holyman of the SubGenius flock is still obscure to the Mediocretins who make up 80flo of the Overpop, among fellow salesmen he is internationally known as "The Man Who Can Sell Anything." "Bob's" surreavolutionary doctrine of PATRIO-PSYCHOTIC ANARCHO- MATERIALISM has found ever-larger numbers of zealous adherents despite relentless persecution by the FBI and other robot engines of the Conspiracy. Furthermore, Dobbs is the only Adept to pass the scrutiny of The Illuminati Corporation's rigorous scientific tests for ectosplasmodic manifestations. From Dobbs came the prophetic utterances which are now severe and compulsory Tenets of the Church. He popularized the concept of Critical-Paranoiac Follies Evaluation by which we know that "...any inanity spouted by a SubGenius at any given time automatically becomes part of orthodox SubGenius Liturgy." It is one of the single greatest Tenets, for by its own very token one can also deny it later. It is erasable. For instance, a guilty SubGenius speaks an Inanity which later proves anti-nonprofit. He can then insist, "No, I didn't say that. It was merely my 'image'...my 'id' took over temporarily." Logically, then, nothing that a SubGenius says is any more or less true and consecrable than any other thing he just happens to utter - even (and especially) if they are contradictory. The SubGenius is an hebephreniac Oxymoron who speaks in Slangs and oxymora. So it doesn't matter what you say or who hears you say it. See? Dobbs denies vehemently that things should ever happen according to preset 'plans,' telling us to look instead to the blunders and flukes of our lives for inspiration - for will not Jehovah determine our fates at every twist and turn anyway?? Can any philosophy other than BULLDADA be brought to bear to preserve us from such impaling facts???

WHAT IS BULLDADA?

What is not? Bulldada is the nearly unexplainable label for that mysterious quality that impregnates ordinary things with meaning for the SubGenius no matter how devoid of value they may appear to The Others. Seeing in the vivisecting light of bulldada, we recognize that the most awe-inspiring artifacts of our civilization are not the revered artsy-fartsy pieces of "culture" displayed in our swankest art museums, universities and concert halls - as the Conspiracy would have us believe! - but are instead to be found in such icons as low- budget exploitation movies, lurid comic books, all-nite TV, sleazy Paperbacks of the Gods, certain bizarre billboards and pulp magazine ads, and literally any other fossil of raw humanity in all its shit- kickingly flawwed glory. Bulldada shows us that cheesiness tells the Truth and gives good Slack whereas status-mongered slickness is merely a sheen of sham value dangled as bait for the hungry dollars of the idiot bourgeois. The SubGenius is not interested in dignified "Learning" or even science fiction - no, what he craves is greasy SCI-FI. He is a veritable scholar of CHEEPNIS! For when a certain level of shoestring- budget "exquisite badness" is descended to on the Rungs of Art, one hits'the cut-off point where true bulldada begins, the 'edge valve' where the SubGenius starts finding almost religious interpretation for the results of atrocious craftsmanship, the point after which a work's quality as a piece of bulldada increases in inverse proportion to its ability to yell a coherent story. The less sophisticated a motion picture (our highest art form) becomes, for instance, the more dismemberingly eternal are the truths between the lines. MARS NEEDS WOMEN! PANIC IN YEAR ZERO! Often, they contain inadvertent prophecies - as well as unexpected background appearances of Dobbs! PLAN NINE FROM OUTER SPACE! MONDO BIZARRO! bulldada the latest exploration into the world of advanced surrealist morealism in which the mind is filled with dirt and lugs which trickle like mutilated centipedes down the sides of the cranium to find sheller and rest inside the now sightless eye-sockets. - Shredni Chisholm: definition of bulldada

DADAISM (Fr. dada, hobby horse), an artistic movement begun in Zurich in 1916 as a protest against the folly of war and against the civilization that engendered it. Its scope was enlarged, as it spread to Berlin, Paris, and New York, to express disgust with all that was conventional and sacrosanct by portraying deliberately inane objects as art of the highest order. The school was well represented by such artists as Man Ray, Max Ernst, Marcel Duchamp, and Hans Arp, and succeeded in developing psychological, aesthetic, and technical experiments through its encouragement of uncensored spontaneity, thereby allowing a multitude of new forms to appear in the artistic world which eventually found their milieu in the more guided application of surrealism. The movement faded out in 1922 and many Dadaists became surrealists. Yes! A sentimental fool who never grew up and who cries over lost ideals, a sinner and a goof-off, the SubGenius is fully capable of recieving authentic god-consciousness from soap operas and monster movies, junkyards and "dives," freakshows and back alleys which most normals have been programmed to consider 'dumb.' What They cannot know is that 'dumbness' - Cheepnis - vital and sincere ignorance - reveals far more about the Interestingly Violent and Taboo World Around Us than any overpriced geegaw that critics and Pink Boys have told us is "art" or "science." THE SUBGENIUS FARTS AT THOSE WHO WOULD TELL HIM WHAT HE SHOULD SPEND MONEY ON. A wino mumbling in his own vomitus is dribbling parables of as soaring a height of bulldada as the rich, creamy superstitions of a thousand popes and witch doctors. Bulldada is accidental greatness, inadvertent Hilariation, but MOREALISM is the deliberate invocation of bulldada and is now heralded by the Church of the SubGenius. In his works of morealism the SubGenius strives for skim-proof shock value, overembellishment, bludgeon humor and morbid yuks. Thus, like his mentor "Bob," he is a great Wiseacre, an orthodox fundadamentalist and a Scatman. "FUCK THEM IF THEY CAN'T TAKE A JOKE."

COUNTLESS PERSONAL SAVIORS!!

The SubGenius knows, bulldadaistically, that each human should do Jehovah's work exactly as He reveals it to them, and that He has wildly varying messages for different people in different situations. By the same token, it is madness to accept any one 'personal savior' - even Dobbs - as a permanent guide. The greatest of the inventions of the SubGenius is the SHORT DURATION PERSONAL SAVIOR, or "Shordurpersav." The True SubGenius accepts into his heart, as his own personal savior, anyone or anything with which he happens to be impressed at the moment. Shordurpersavs change from hour to hour, whim to whim. It could be the hero of a show you just saw, the author of a filthy book, a bottle of Thunderbird, a good pal, a car, a dog, a sex object, a friendly croaker who scripts for you. Not professional gurus you are locked into believing, but temporary ones according to the need of the "Now. " They change so fast that it never gets embarrassing, you aren't inclined to 'proselytize' them off on disinterested others who will later laugh at you; you know their effects will wear off in minutes (even though the very idea is unthinkable while under the Influence). One needs not mention them at all - a superb Tenet, since one is sometimes deeply ashamed of oneself for having a particularly unsavory Shordurpersav: some few can be Personal Saviors and False Prophets at the same time. With this plethora of recombinant philosophies and Personal Saviors, the SubGenius is well-fueled, stoked to the fusion-point with spiritual fodder. Once he has "decided" whether to attack life through the REWARD SYSTEM ("Oh, Well'') or the EMERGENCY SYSTEM ("Oh Shit!"), he is primed up and ready to plunge, with or without the consent of Dobbs (who he will probably never meet) into the Slack- Search through the Short Wave Activities or Minor Fluctuations of the Stoogely Arts which make up the daily life of the Practicing (as opposed to Latent, Rogue, or Renegade) SubGenius. The most frequently indulged of these Activities is "GOBBING ON LIFE, "opposite from yet similar to the ritual "Massing Around" of Them. Like the ancient alchemists in search of their alleged Philosopher's Stone, he is merely gobbing, trying to 'get by' with as little effort and as well-greased mistakes as possible on the Path of Least Resistance. Often misconstrued as a totally unconstructive, slothful lifestyle, it is actually a Holy Grailoid 'Ion Quest' for the sacred principle of Something for Nothing - he is, in effect, trying to become a perpetual motion machine, fueled only by the welfare of the State which he considers merely a phantasm, another illusion in this vale of nonexistent material things. If nothing else, he at least becomes an expert Floorsleeper and Tubemaster. A rich or else industrious spouse is a welcome partner on this sacred road, a favorite of Rewardians who seek timelessly to reward themselves for things they are "about to do." The False Prophets, the Conpirators, Them, the Mediocretins, the stupid Pink Boys, the malignant ones who breathe down our necks and abuse their territorial urges without ever dreaming that they are doing it, the ones who have tried to maim our self-respect down through the centuries by making Slack and antipredictability TABOO in this human culture. They are the offensive ones who brought this Buck Rogers monstrosity of microchips and inflation, nothing makes sense anymore and everything costs too much, the weather is weird, WHY DID THEY DO IT? Don't they know they're begging for the flaming sword of Retribution?? The space monsters aren't about to let us get away with this masturbatory industrialization much longer, they watch our TV shows, they know all about us and can snuff our already disarrayed civilization with but a whisper to their ultimate computer brain, the brooding computer which we will have soon too, the computer so complex it is not a machine, it is more of a moss-like independent growth of circuits which it prints itself, sprawling through our homes, quietly overwhelming, YES the aliens will "give" it to us, we floundering human beings will fight nuclear wars with each other trying to decide whether to turn this unwholesome 'mouth of a Trojan gift-horse' ON or OFF, in the end we will turn it ON, and then by God we will not be able to do WITHOUT it. REPENT!! The End Times are drawing near, the X-ists are about to land, the False Prophets will kiss their dinosaurian asses and this planet will be sold down the river as sure as Lee Harvey Oswald's clone cashed the Conspiracy's checks. Just as "Bob" predicts in The Prescriptures, the proven modern prophecies of the SubGenius, we are one royal hair trigger from the Wrath of Jehovah 1, His galactic Finger is itchy and He is not well pleased with what Man hath wrought, REPENT THEN and prepare for the Age of Tribulations, you think last winter was bad, wait until the glaciers are at your driveway, the earth shall shake, the sky shall fall, space junk, tornados, hail the size of Cadillacs, plutonium clouds, sunspots, the stifling of all photosynthesis in the seas, ugly mutant locusts that carry DDT in their stings, famine even in California, a dustbowl in Canada, microwave roach steaks $5.99, drinking water you have to boil first and pay for, recombinant viruses, contagious cancers, one day you'll go to the mirror like poor Bert did to pop a 'blemish' and find your whole face cracking with each pinch like a rotten tomato, The Plague! But these are only the natural things, acts of God or Satan, they blanch in the face of MAN'S deeds to come, man's nonprimateness to man, the Government, my God the Endarkenment of the next century will be marked by the rise of OVERMEN, superior mutants, BETTER than us, handsomer, more muscular, brilliant like Shakespeare or Einstein, but evil, they can do everything better than we can, self-righteous man- made supermen, an unclean bunch of clowns who will tread too far into the accursed Forbidden Sciences and come back controlling Time but so addicted to doing so that they will lead the stewing broiling mass of humans into a technological Hell, WOTF, a war with Mars over a worm, Jesus Christ you must believe it will all begin in 1982 when all the planets, the Earth and the Sun, all line up with the dog star Sirius, the Silver Star, in 1998 it will draw the X-ists to us like flies to a dungdish, oh they won't stay long, they'll leave us, completely free to do as we please, but their unnameable "maggots" will remain. Diabolic caricatures, hideously silent, evasive, but always with us. WE WILL BE DOGS TO THEM in more ways than you can count. Yes, it will be bad, why do you think they call it Apocalypse?? The Book of Revelations is an alien text, those space monsters know what they're about to do with us, they knew it 2000 years ago, but what they don't know any more than we do is what The Prescriptures mean when they darkly refer to THE RUPTURE, the cosmic vortex calamity after the biblical Apocalypse and somehow a godzillion times worse, Omicron Epsilon, yes REPENT! Repent and fornicate like your life depended on it but know all along that the cannibal False Prophets wait to sell you out at every trick turn, remember wherever you go that the pleasant, harmless looking human beings shopping all around you will quietly acquiesce to purchasing anything dangled in front of them by a superior intelligence whether the dangler is human or not and whether what is dangled is humane or not. Yes the smiling False Prophets of every race will sell you hot lead, cold steel, and a one-way ticket to Hell without it ever crossing their minds that the buttons were pushed by their squeaky-clean little pink fingers. And so AIEEE the gore-drenched night-spawned Goal, the be-all and end- all of the full devastating evilangelism of the SubGenius, is the Casting Out of the False Prophets. It is the voiceless Ground Zero of the Three Anti-Nonviolent Action Protograms: REMOVAL, ELIMINATION, and the SCOURING of this cage Earth; it is the Sacred Vindictive Grudge-Chore of Vengeance at which the groping alien monster god prods us. In whichever way Jehovah 1 instructs him, the SubGenius Unmasks those False Prophets as he is wont to Remove (to ascertain that a SubGenius is not hiding beneathl); he Makes Witness against them, and in so doing unleashes the full force of the Mockery Sciences: Mocking and Reviling, Scoffing and Blaspheming, Making Sport, Taboo Shattering, Namismatic Flaudulation of the English Language, the Tumping of Graven Images; in short, Waging the Wor and Smiting the Infidels: and yet he does this in common everyday conversation if he so chooses; his foe never notices the subliminal commands in the SubGenius Jests. Eventually he escalates to SHOCK VALUE: he goes among the enemy Relabeling, Pro- phesying and Diesecting::: - Wielding the Raygun Finger of Unrelenting Humiliation in a zeal- fevered studlust of territorial sexhurt domination!! - But it is not enough for these fat soft devilsl "Too much is always better than not enough." - Dobbs, Ec.1:23. To slake his ever-mounting thirst for revenge he finds he most go beyond the 'formal' dictates of the Church; his personal violence, in whatever form, has exceeded even those unholy shrieking limits; the transfigured RENEGADE SUBGENIUS schizms from his Lodge, he joins an anti-SubG operation such as the Pink Boys (in the process disavowing any knowledge in general), he then shucks all semblance of human acceptability, goes full-tilt Mandrill and finally becomes the feared ROGUE SUBGENIUS, capable of any unmentionable act and owing allegiance to nothing. The gun barrel bumps once against the victim's forehead, he hears the click only, not the BANG, and he leaves his arithmetic running down the wall behind him. "Fuck Them If They Can't Take A Joke." Ha! - but this has all been a sham. To keep blame from the Church, the 'Rogue' has been main- taining a false front of madness while actually serv- ing as a calculating Now-Or-Later Nihilator of the Goon Squad of the SubGenius! (Countless villains of history and science were 'Rogue SubGeniuses' working Jehovah's indecipherable plans. We admit all this to insure disbelief. ) This is an action church! Jihad! Holy War! Religion is not some panty-waist formula to sit upon fatly complacent! It is clean-shaven WAR! "The Gig is up." We are all equal in God's eyes if not Jehovah's and this gives us each a divine license to SMITE! Jehovah's Winepress spilleth over with the blood of the innocent and there must be JUSTICE! AAIIIEEEE! Kali Yuga! The buttholes must be untimely Clipp'd! See then the SubGenius and know that his Laws change with the wind in his Contra Diction!...his Church thus reflects life in all its spasmodic glory!! could this be the end?



-- "BOB" (!@!.!), July 11, 1999.


Speaking of trends......

It seems to be a weekend phenom for the mental cases. First, al-d goes into one of his bible bablings and bingo, Bob the Sub-Human tags along. Man, I hope these freaks live in the same area...containment ya know.

-- Eat (s**t@die.now), July 11, 1999.


we subgenii are everywhere,quietly lurking.Keeping our secret yeti- genes safe content in our superiority.waiting for the stark fist of removal,when "BOB" will welcome us aboard the pleasure crusiers departing to planet-x,where we will be transformed into uber-men and ober-women.PRAISE "BOB"!!!

-- reverand ganja man (rev.ganja-man@subgenious.com), July 12, 1999.

"we subgenii are everywhere,quietly lurking.Keeping our secret yeti- genes safe content in our superiority.waiting for the stark fist of removal,when "BOB" will welcome us aboard the pleasure crusiers departing to planet-x,where we will be transformed into uber-men and ober-women.PRAISE "BOB"!!!"

Spark it up Rev, your ship has arrived!

-- Enjoy (your@trip.rev), July 12, 1999.


reverand ganja man,

Uhhhhh...excuse me...no offence reverand...but I think you give a bad image to the segment of the population that smokes marijuana.

AL-d,

Will you stop walking up and down this board carrying a sigh saying, "the world will end today"? You need a little more education in religious matters before predicting the end of the world.

Can you give us your spin on the difference between the old and new testament "Book of Revelations" and the social/economic implications for both, at the time it was written and current day?

How about going back to some of your more interesting stuff instead of doom all the time?...

-- BiGG (supersite@acronet.net), July 12, 1999.


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