Subject:	CET, another clue for you. Was: You Can Forget Electricity
Date:	1999/07/05
Author:	cory hamasaki <kiyoinc@ibm.XOUT.net>
	Posting History

On Mon, 5 Jul 1999 07:13:36, smpoole7@bellsouth.net.shuvdaspam wrote:   >  > Here's another free clue: if Asia could work around hundreds of > thousands of dead computers -- an event for which little advance > preparation had been made -- don't you think that we'll be able to > handle Y2K, given that just about everyone who works in ANY field that > even touches a computer has been forewarned, has at least as > rudimentary contingency plan in place, and will be watching like a > hawk for problems over the Y2K transition?   Well no.   Here comes the broken record again.  Monkey County Maryland crowed about their "metrics", "methodologies", and other mumbo-jumbo.  You may have seen them, they were on 60 Minutes.   Since that show was aired, the Monkey has been in "Speak some evil" mode.  Oopsie, their Permits system has a Lookahead problem,  Oopsie, their phones, probably a Private Branch Exchange, need to be replaced at the cost of millions of dollars.  Oopsie, oopsie, their bold words are just rhetoric, much like:   >  Simply put: WE WILL DO WITHOUT THE STUPID COMPUTERS, IF NEED BE, > UNTIL THEY'RE FIXED.   How do I know this?  I could say I have a big brain but the fact is, the Monkey is near DeeCee and there are consultant-contractors who are part of the DeeCee geekvine working Y2K for the Monkey.   Oh, and Drac posted the URL for an expose article by a local newspaper.   Here's the clincher, there are lots of programmers, the power is working,  the stores are full of food and supplies but the Monkey is fumbling on fixing his systems.  He can't fix the failures in, oh, 2 or 3 hours.  It takes weeks, months, and millions of dollars.   Surprise,  if it took them months and millions of dollars to fix a system prior to failure, it's taking them months and millions to fix a similar system after it fails.  Some of us expected that.   You may want to rush over and tell the Monkey that he's wasting his money.  Spank the Monkey, CET.  Tell the Monkey you can do the work with a virus scanner, a junker PC, two lefthanded clerks, and a shared number 2 pencil.   I don't believe that county services are as important as manufacturing, distribution, and employment.  I expect that the Monkey will get his house in order; after all, he has almost 6 months left.   It's the other thousands of counties, businesses, loose confederation of companies, they're looking at a big problem.   I am concerned about the clueless, Dilbertesque butt-heads out there, the Fooles who think this is going to be a walk in the park.  If it is, it'll be the Van Nuys' park.   I am encouraged that CET has moved beyond the "no problems" delusion. Unfortunately the next step from that is the "We don't need no corn-puters, we're real men" delusion.   All right, mr. John Henry CET, steel driving man, remediate THIS!   cory hamasaki  http://www.kiyoinc.com/current.html 

-- a (a@a.a), July 06, 1999

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Two clues for the price of one today, Steve:

Subject:	CET, tuna is on sale. Was: You Can Forget Electricity
Date:	1999/07/05
Author:	cory hamasaki <kiyoinc@ibm.XOUT.net>
	Posting History

On Sun, 4 Jul 1999 20:54:24, smpoole7@bellsouth.net.shuvdaspam wrote:   > You know that you sound like a broken record, don't you? You are > becoming more and more pathetic, Cory. You keep repeating the same > dozen or so examples over and again, as if by repetition you can   Well, of course.  These are true events.  Shocking perhaps but documented and consistant.  I suppose that someone who fabricates straw arguments, then scampers away saying "just testing you", would find these boring.   But given that we have a collection of problems, some in controlled tests, some reported by the self proclaimed best of the best, I'd say that the average of the average and the baddest of the bad will be in big trouble.   > I am ever-increasingly amused at how you have quietly decided to > abandon the Jo Anne Effect thing, because by now, it should be obvious > even to YOU that it was a blown prediction.  A BUST.  A NO-GO.   Of course I've abandoned the JAE, now that Monkey county is reporting JAE-like problems in their lookahead systems, there isn't much to speculate about, is there?  It's real, it happened.  The Monkey is yelling Uh-oh, it's Jo.   So what's your point?  That the Monkey is telling stories?   Here's that tired old "Computer Virus" argument again.  Lookit CET, the largest part of the problem isn't on the desktop.  It's in the back room with the AS/400s, S/3x, Vaxen, PDPs, and all the assorted flotsam and jetsam of the last 30 years.   Your virus argument implies that the desktop isn't as important as we thought.   CET, CET, take a stress pill.   > What has sunk in, more than anything else, is that either you are a > disingenuous clown/troll who is in this for a cheap blood rush -- for > the LIFE of me, I cannot bring myself to believe that someone could be > so ignorant of BASIC FACTS -- or you are indeed something worse than a > moron.   Uh-oh, Houston, we have a problem.   > NO ONE -- save for Doomlits who think you're cute, and Paul Milne, who   CET, sit.  Have a cool drink or something.   > is proof that the aliens have invaded -- takes you seriously anymore. > GET THE NEWS.  ASSIMILATE IT.   He's snapped.   > YOUR OWN PREDICTIONS HAVE FAILED. WHY IN THE *WORLD* SHOULD I LISTEN > TO A WORD YOU HAVE TO SAY FROM THIS POINT FORWARD?   Use the tranquilizer gun Frank!   -phffffft-   > (Mutter ... mutter .. .. . .. .. slowly coming to my senses . .. . )   The net, paul, toss the NET.   > I experience epiphany: Why should I waste further time on morons? > > -- Stephen (answer: I won't.  Be well.)   Tuna is on sale at Giant, the mid-grade, non-Albacore, 39 cents a can.  Stock up, 100 cans is only 39 bucks.  Canned peas, 4 cans for two bucks.  100 cans is 50 bucks.   It's cassarole time!    Tuna, peas, (a white sauce made from flour and butter)  macaroni or rice.  If Y2K is *not* a problem, you've got cheap eats for a year.  10 minutes in the kitchen and you have a hot meal for 4.  I like to finish up with fresh fruit in season.   cory hamasaki http://www.kiyoinc.com/curr ent.html   

-- a (a@a.a), July 06, 1999.

One more for Stephen Foole CET:

Subject:	CET, spank the monkey. Was: You Can Forget Electricity
Date:	1999/07/04
Author:	cory hamasaki <kiyoinc@ibm.XOUT.net>
	Posting History

On Sat, 3 Jul 1999 23:04:29, "Bob Brock" <bbrock@i-america.net> wrote:   > > Paul Milne wrote in message <931040592.964709@helium.cstone.net>... > > > >smpoole7@bellsouth.net.shuvdaspam wrote in message > ><377e89d4.79587907@news.bhm.bellsouth.net> ... > >>Paul, my good friend and Ringmaster, you of all people need to see the > >>State of Y2K for this month. > >> > >>http://www.wwjd.net/smpo ole/fixed.html > >> > >>Hint: look at the article, "An Experiment In Journalism ..." > >> > >>-- Stephen > >>  If you live within 2 miles of Paul Milne, you're a hostage. > >> > >   He meant CET, sadly, due to your butt-headedness, I fear that ... > >You'll be dead soon.   Please CET, please get a clue so you won't get trapped in an elevator like the Mayor of L.A., have your phones or permits systems  fail like Monkey-see Monkey-do County,  get swept away by a sea-tide of sewage while picnicing in the Van Nuys park,  have to stare at blank screens as at Peach Bottom 2.   And these are just the preliminaries, carefully scripted tests, nothing left to chance, nothing could possibly go wrong, the best of the best.   Is it starting to sink in?   Lookit, outside of c.s.y2k, how much coverage did the Van Nuys incident get?  Did the Worshington Pravda's expose on the plans for Locomotive sized generators and armed guards at the food depots make the national news?   Monkey-See Monkey-Do County brayed on 60 Minutes, "hee-haw, we have metrics, we're ready for Y2K."  A local paper runs an expose, no, they're not and they're scrambling for resources.  Maybe 40 million people watched 60 minutes and think that the Monkey is good to go.  A few thousand locals (and all of c.s.y2k thanks to Drac.) know the true story, Y2K is going to spank the monkey.   CET,  spank the monkey is a good term for what's going on.   Knock it off, CET, stop spanking the monkey.  You want the truth?  Can you take the truth?   > > > >Paul Milne > > > Paul, you really need to lighten up on the threats or someone may actually > take you seriously.   That wasn't a threat, that was an observation, like an oncologist who looks up, narrows his eyes and tells it straight.  You have less than 6 months, sorry, we did our best.   cory hamasaki  http://www.kiyoinc.com/curr ent.html 

-- a (a@a.a), July 06, 1999.

We're on a roll!

Subject:	CET, get with the program. Was: State of Y2K, July 4th Edition
Date:	1999/07/04
Author:	cory hamasaki <kiyoinc@ibm.XOUT.net>
	Posting History

On Sun, 4 Jul 1999 00:58:39, "D. Scott Secor - Millennial Infarction Mitigator" <y 2k@uswest.net.NO$PAM> wrote:   > <smpoole7@bellsouth.net.shuvdaspam> wrote in message > news:377e8912.79394213@news.bhm.bellsouth.net...< BR> > > http://www.wwjd.net/smpo ole/fixed.html > > I particularly enjoyed your well planned hoax the you perpetrated -- "to > prove a point".  But I am afraid that the only point that it proved is your > utter lack of scruples -- about on par with Pee Wee Sherman, et al.   It was sad.  Especially his crowing about those he managed to dupe into writing supporting articles.   Even though I didn't respond with a supporting article and could easily claim that I didn't buy it, I will state post-event that the general thesis matches my understanding of the Y2K coverup.   What's sad isn't so much CET's hoax, the continued campaign on the part of the broomies to set up strawman arguments.  What's sad is that they've given up arguing the real events, the sewage spills (more in the next WRP), the county problems in DeeCee and Monkey County.   These are open, documented incidents.  These failures during testing, pre-Y2K events caused by lookaheads and date-range bounds checks are well documented as is the effort required for repair.   In addition, the NRC has stated that there are Y2K problems in nuclear power plants.  Since these problems are not of the sort that *directly* causes the plant to erupt in blue glowing pyrotechnics, they've chosen to broomie the problems under the carpet.   Given that there are real Y2K issues to discuss,  1) is it fair to extrapolate from sewage plants to other computer controlled processes? 2) What are the risks of a chain of failure at a Nuke, 3)  If Monkey county is scrambling, what's going on in *your* county government?  why does CET feel the need to fabricate a straw-man?   These are the last days of the broomies.  I hope everyone will have a nice vacation, grill a steak, catch some rays, whatever.  These may be the last days for all of us.    I'll be working on the next WRP this afternoon and tomorrow.  Also I owe a bunch of people some printed WRPs.  Thanks for being patient.   cory hamasaki  http://www.kiyoinc.com/curr ent.html 

-- a (a@a.a), July 06, 1999.

Thanks a,

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-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), July 06, 1999.

--a,

I really do enjoy the Cory material that you pick up and post. Thanks for doing this, and please keep it up. Monkey County, spank the Monkey, Cory sure does have a way with words. And as far as CET goes, I am reminded of that old admonition, "Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive."

-- Gordon (gpconnolly@aol.com), July 06, 1999.

a--

thanks for the post. They have way of words i wish i had.

-- kevin (innxxs@yahoo.com), July 07, 1999.

Cory: Keep up the great work. THE TRUTH POINTS TO ITSELF.

-- jaime estrada (beseme@dedo.net), July 07, 1999.

a

Thanks ever so much for re-posting milne's and cory's posts to csy2k. I just don't have time to read through all the posts there anymore. Although I do admit that the effort would have been worth no sleep tonight just to dig out the gems of Poole-boy being rung through the wringer by both Paul and Cory.

If there's a downside to these posts, I'm sure it's that Poole-boy is just too densely compacted under the weight of his own self- importance to have even been nicked by the shots directed at him. He obviously needs some sort of reprimand for his recent actions. I hope this round is enough, even for Poole-boy.

WW

-- Wildweasel (vtmldm@epix.net), July 07, 1999.