I was re-reading the Red Cross Y2K preparation list and wondered about something. Could you be COMPELLED to go to a public shelter? ("Y2K Enpowerment Camp No.4"?)Presumably, ownership and occupancy of a home might be differently handled than say,individuals renting an apartment, but maybe not. With the usual efficiency of our government,one might envision a lengthy stay. Or, in a nightmare scenario, if things start to fall apart, what sort of expedient decisions might be reached? The term "useless eaters" comes to mind.

-- Greg Lawrence (greg@speakeasy.org), June 24, 1999

Answers

Ahh...the silence is deafening. Well, that's o.k. No answers are answers themselves.

-- Greg Lawrence (greg@speakeasy.org), June 24, 1999.

I would fight tooth and nail to stay out of a shelter as long as I was ok where I was. People down here in Florida are used to the concept of shelters due to hurricanes. On the other hand, its the law down here that if you choose....and you can choose....not to go to a shelter or at least evacuate, then you are on your own and no EMS is compelled to try and rescue you when the SHTF. Personally, I can't think of much worse than a shelter, but if I were hungry and cold and had little kids, I am sure I would think differently.

Taz

-- Taz (Tassie @aol.com), June 24, 1999.

This topic comes-up constantly. It is unpredicatable. The lucky well-armed won't go unless out-gunned. Some say there would not be enough shelters to bother forcing people to go against their will. Others fear concentration camps. Still others say Y2K is a hoax.

-- Anonymous99 (Anonymous99@Anonymous99.xxx), June 24, 1999.

This topic comes-up constantly. It is unpredictable. The lucky well- armed won't go unless out-gunned. Some say there would not be enough shelters to bother forcing people to go against their will. Others fear concentration camps. Still others say Y2K is a hoax.

-- Anonymous99 (Anonymous99@Anonymous99.xxx), June 24, 1999.

Greg,

I think you have hit the nail on the head. Silence does speak on this issue. No way to predict the reaction of the government in this. Anon99's right about the shelters if the failures are wide spread and not just "local" as we've been told. So, best case the shelters suck, worst case the shelters are prisons. Best to stay home and post your own sentries.

-- Mike (midwestmke_@hotmail.com), June 24, 1999.

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-- Mumsie (Lotsakids@home.com), June 25, 1999.

I don't know what the law says in PA, but I ought to look into it. NO way am I leaving my well-prepared home for a crowded public shelter with alot of unprepared, snivelling people.

I am well armed, and willing to use force to remain if that is what it takes...

-- Bill (billclo@msgbox.com), June 25, 1999.

Just curious,... how many of you are serious about fighting to remain at home versus being involuntarily "escorted" to a shelter... Would you still try to fight if you were faced by SWAT team/Special forces types?

-- Mumsie (Lotsakids@home.com), June 25, 1999.

Hey Bill,

I'm in PA as well, and very concerned about being forced to go to a shelter and having all of my preps confiscated.

The email is real. If you want, email me and we'll see if we're even in the same part of the state.

-- nothere nothere (notherethere@hotmail.com), June 25, 1999.

Mumsie,

I doubt that the Special Forces guys would be involved in this kind of operation. I could see regular Army guys being used in a pinch, and definitely NG troops though.

I would much rather leave the house, and not be there to be escorted. If they appeared to be looting my home, I'd make sure that there were a lot fewer of them afterwards. Shoot and scoot, as it were.

-- Bill (billclo@msgbox.com), June 25, 1999.

If you really put up resistance, they won't *want* you at the shelter. Troublemakers not welcome ;^)

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), June 25, 1999.

Utilize the path of least resistance. If it would appear that you would be taken along in irons, go gracefully. Then escape and come back. Next time be prepared.

Truthfully, I don't think that severe force will be used on individuals that insist on not going to a shelter....as long as that citizen appears to be able to care for themselves. The exception would be those young men of 'other' ethnic backgrounds that the authorities deem 'high risk' for civil disobedience. Those folks may well be rounded up at the point of a gun, depending on the paranoia of the local officials. I do think the elderly and infirm will be compelled to go to a shelter unless there is a family member competent enough to care for them.

-- Lobo (atthelair@yahoo.com), June 26, 1999.