Subject:	Re: [AUS] R/3 problems still dogging Wine Society
Date:	1999/06/17
Author:	cory hamasaki <kiyoinc@ibm.XOUT.net>
	Posting History

On Thu, 17 Jun 1999 01:22:40, hoff_meister <hoff_meister@my-deja.com> wrote:   > In article <7kepWhCNP4qd-pn2-JxDWojPSE1Fq@localhost>, >  kiyoinc@ibm.XOUT.net (cory hamasaki) wrote: > <snip> > > Hell, Cory, you've been waiting for *this* as evidence that some > rollouts fail?   Noooo, that's not what the part that you snipped said.  It read, "Hey, waaaait-a-minute.  I thought Hoffy said that SAP was the answer, tell me again what the problem is."   Not, as you imply, "Doh, I'm glad there's finally evidence that sometimes rollouts fail."   Big difference in meaning.  You should explain why you did it.   The point which you dance around is that roll outs fail, that schedules slip, and some systems will not be fixed when they fall on their face because of the event.   You're playing on the wrong team.  What's funny is that the broomies ran wild in a thread about a month ago predicting that the doomies would silently slip away or turn their coats as the good news overwelmed the newsgroup.   Well, Ron Swartz isn't with us but I've observed a distinct shortage of broomies, beaks, Poole, dechert, others; the broomies are at half strength at best.   The broomie "slink-away" seemed to start with the 60 minutes episode in which the Y2K TSARINA for DeeCee said that the choice is to get a gun and run for the hills or hold up in your apartment with 2 weeks worth of water.  To be fair, she blushed when confronted with the quote but proceeded to detail scenarios in which water, power etc. might not be available.  She also hinted at a cover-up.   Next there were the WDC Y2K survey results, the Horn score card, and today, there were three Y2K articles in the Washington Post, http://www.washingtonpost.com  fire up their search engine.   > And you say you have *how* many years experience?   And I'll let this pass after mentioning that my M.S. Computer Science is from G.W.U.'s school of engineering and applied science.  TCMay might not like this kind of resume flashing but you asked.  Oh and my amateur Advanced license is from 1963.   > Geez, if all you were waiting for is a company complaining about a R/3 > implementation, I could have saved you 8 months!  I posted a reference   Read the quote again.  I suspect that you have a reading disorder (which might be better than an eating disorder, as some here seem to exhibit.) I've seen you get all hoffy at imagined slights, or at least slights that no one else would react to.   > last fall to FoxMeyer, who actually sued SAP and Andersen. > > Hoffmeister   Lookit Hoffy, the only mitigating circumstance was the odd idea that maybe systems that failed could be fixed in, oh, 2 or 3 hours.  This was the broomie mantra (along with how the news would be filled with verified reports of compliant companies.)   What's happened is that the last deadline June 30, 1999 is upon us and unless, oh, 80% of the Fortune 5,000 go on record as done, DONE, done and verified by a pit-bull like Joel Willemsen of the GAO.  That's all she wrote.   Instead, we're seeing slippages in the leaders.  Mongomery County Maryland (Monkey County to the residents) was supposed to be done last year.  They're still finding problems.   Everywhere we look, compliant systems are being reworked.  It is honestly worse than I expected it to be.   I thought, and this is on record in this newsgroup and in the WRPs, that BankBoston would be done by late winter or early spring.  This was based on their 1997 statement to Newsweek, some geekvine reports, a mutual client, and a report on the radio.  I still haven't heard that BB is done.  What about BankAmerica?  Where are the reports?  All we have is McIssaac saying that it's fine, trust him.   When BB is done, DONE, and verified by a pit-bull auditor, I'll go on record as believing that the other banks are, oh, a year or two behind. GREAT NEWS?  Well, it puts compliance out in 2001 or 2002.   I don't get it.  If this can be done in the next 6 months, why weren't half the companies done 6 months ago?  Will everyone slam the last brick into place on December 31, 1999 at 11:55PM? Leaving a full 5 mintues for testing.  I don't think so.   What happens when the systems fail?  Who loses their job?  Who loses their savings?  Who dies?  I don't have the answers but unlike the broomies, I clearly understand that.   I also don't know that owning a -gasp- semi-auto military-look rifle has anything to do with Y2K survival.  Maybe, maybe not.  I do like the sound of the bolt driving a round into the chamber.  It's not clear that food will vanish, that water will fail, that the power will be off for minutes, or days, or months.  None of this is known.   I am concerned that corporations are making contingency plans and implementing them and their plans exceed my plans.   Put it together.  Stuff will break.  Get ready.   How and how much, you have to decide for yourself.  I've put a lot of detail into my reports.  I haven't spent that much money and in fact by my accounting, I have a negative Y2K prep cost.  I like fried spam, corned beef, rice, chili and beans; tuna and mayo on white with a bottle of chilled white wine 'n soda and a pneumatic blonde with disco-Duck on the 8 track.   cory hamasaki  http://www.kiyoinc.com/current.html 

-- a (a@a.a), June 17, 1999

Answers

Well, by the sounds of that last paragraph....I suppose shackin' up with ME will be out of the question. Everything else makes sense. Scary perhaps....but the logic is sound.

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), June 17, 1999.

What's a "pneumatic blonde"?

-- Cary Mc from Tx (Caretha@compuserve.com), June 17, 1999.

(hint, Cary: they come with patch kits)

-- lisa (lisa@work.now), June 17, 1999.

-lisa

ROFLOLAWMP

-- Cary Mc from Tx (Caretha@compuserve.com), June 17, 1999.

Lisa -

That phrase is most often used to describe women who do not require patch kits, but who do possess certain, uhhh, somewhat gravity-defying attributes. Pamela Anderson Lee would be one (particularly bimbo-esque) example.

-- Mac (sneak@lurk.hid), June 17, 1999.

what's a broomie?

-- zoobie (zoobiezoob@yahoo.com), June 17, 1999.

For Godsakes people....is EVERYBODY suffering 'Y2K factual information burnout" here? Good, I was afraid I was the only one!

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), June 17, 1999.

Judging by the context, "broomie" must be slang for what we would call a pollyanna.

Ladies, I have Pamela Anderson's XXX video that she made with her husband. She is the ultimate woman! She should be your role model!!

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.com), June 17, 1999.

AAAAHHHHH...go take a dip in da mud, King! Bet SHE can't wrestle a steer!!

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), June 17, 1999.

Wil L Continue?

Is that why your kilt is missing?

-- Randolph (dinosaur@williams-net.com), June 17, 1999.