Ok I have read some about this y2k, First do you realize that MILLIONS Will Die? This is uncomprehendable to the human mind! How can this be? Why on earth isnt the president telling the people about this? I'm freaking out a little here, i'v been tossing and turning all night, this is like some twilight zone movie. Now I'm wondering if I'm crazy or blind too this easy lifestyle I live, it can't happen here! It's allways somewhere else the trouble happens. I will research more on this y2k. I hope you people are wrong! I hope this is a bad joke! I hope this is not the way this era in life ends. The horror of this is too much for people to handle. ): Rooster

-- Rooster Gogburn (Wondering@boutthisnow.wow), June 17, 1999

Answers

The rooster "gets it".

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), June 17, 1999.

Cock-a-doodle-do. Let's hope he tells the hens !!

-- Ray (ray@totacc.com), June 17, 1999.

Uh. . .wasn't the original post from Rooster Cogburn (as opposed to Gogburn)?

Troll alert?

:)

-- FM (vidprof@aol.com), June 17, 1999.

Rooster,

I've been in the programming biz for going on 20 years, with really nothing more than a strong background in COBOL plus some C, C++, and Basic. I have been studying the Y2K issue diligently since November of 1998 but I've known about it since 1985. I felt the same way you do when I first started poking around but then I learned that it was better to not believe everything I read. If you have ever come across mention of the "disaster scale" you'd know there is a 1-10 rating with 10 being The End Of The World As We Know It, or as Captain Miller might say... FUBAR.

Right now I don't have much reason to think there will be anything greater than a 4 in the United States and No more than a 6.5 in the overseas countries. I think this way because I, like many members of this forum, have the unique oppertunity to be an "IT geek" and have the ability to sniff the winds of change so to speak. Nobody I know in any corporation I do consulting work for is the least bit worried about Y2K failures.

But I don't know everything, and nobody can predict the future. There might be nothing more to worry about than a bump in the road and there just might be some cascading failures that result in a "10".

But remeber this, nobody here knows exaclty what will happen no matter what credentials they flash at you. Andy, Paul Milne, Cory and a few others might have you thinking that a "10" is the only possible outcome. Poole, Y2K Pro, Flint and Paul davis would probably have you think that "1" is the worst case scenario. I myself think there is a good chance for a 2 but likely no more than a 4 for the U.S.A.

Somewhere you have to figure out where you stand and plan accordingly, if your that kind of person. Be warned though... if you do plan to prepare, expect criticism and sometimes outright name calling. In fact you might even be called a "loony" or a "doomer". But you have to judge for yourself what it's worth to you to have some peace of mind "Just in case"

-- (work@home.atl), June 17, 1999.

Will has once again proved to have very little brain capacity. Get it?

-- Polly (but@no.cracker), June 17, 1999.

FM,

Yes, and the original Cogburn seemed to know how to spell, too.

Troll alert?

-- RUOK (RUOK@yesiam.com), June 17, 1999.

Whoever you are, you'll get used to it. More or less.

-- Tom Carey (tomcarey@mindspring.com), June 17, 1999.

I felt the same way Rooster, It was just like the Twilight Zone, I couldn't be thinking this, The world I live in would never,never let this happen, and if they did, they certainly would tell us to prepare, wouldn't theyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Zeda

-- Zeda (rickster@n-jcenter.com), June 17, 1999.

Andy, Paul Milne, Cory and a few others might have you thinking that a "10" is the only possible outcome.

Cory is on record as "7", isn't he?

-- Lane Core Jr. (elcore@sgi.net), June 17, 1999.

I think it makes sence that we're hearing nothing in the media.On one hand,if people knew at how much risk the all powerful dollar is,they'd pull their money and cause bank runs.On the other hand,there are a lot of people in the inner-city that have access to uzi's, but see no need to.With only 2 and a half million soldiers,keeping order in cities,should problems occour,will be hard enough without potential troublemakers having avanced knowledge that they should prepair for better looting.

-- zoobie (zoobiezoob@yahoo.com), June 17, 1999.

By the way,I thought you were dead!

-- zoobie (zoobiezoob@yahoo.com), June 17, 1999.

Please continue to bless our little souls with your personal viewpoints.....however, perhaps a better page heading than 'I'm back from very little sleep.' would be in order......something that perhaps describes the topic in a bit better detail........

I know, I know, I've often been tempted to title new threads with things like 'I just got back from a long pee', 'Man O' Man my bum is Sore' and 'I'd Just Like to Say Hello to my Mother'. However my complete and total respect for internet protocol would not allow me to do so.

We are all, however, pleased that you chose the name Rooster as your handle, appreciating that you didn't feel the need to elaborate more fully!

-- Craig (craig@ccinet.ab.ca), June 17, 1999.

Craig,

Eat shit, you puffed-up little insect.

Throthgar

-- Throthgar (Throth@hillpeople.org), June 17, 1999.

Well whatever people. You know my name is made up just as all yours are, it does'nt matter a whole lot about spelling eaither. I'm just giving this a little research sence a friend gave me this site to check out. I am in AWW to say the least. I am still lost as in how this can be! But after calling my friend and talking about y2k, he informed me that in our little town of 7,000 our local court house crashed in January and everything had to be done by hand for 3 days untill a programer patched everything to work untill the new computers arrive in June. So things can be fixed. Now the 2 diget date thing is understandable less space used, less money spent. But know we have to pay the piper it looks like. What is not understandable is why this is not being seen by so many, untill I look at myself. Will continue researching.

-- Rooster Cogburn (Wondering@boutthisnow.wow), June 17, 1999.

Throthgar.......

We're all duly impressed with your skillful use of the English language.......your clever rebuttal and insightful irony......if I were you, I'd join a debating team quickly where you could exhibit your wit and bless many with your level of education......

Where were such brilliant me when the Scopes trial was taking place. I dare say, a few words from you and all would have been convinced we are merely descendants of monkeys.

-- Craig (craig@ccinet.ab.ca), June 17, 1999.

Anyone else observed that Pollys exhibit snobbery?

-- h (h@h.h), June 17, 1999.

Rooster,

"I hope you people are wrong!"

Most of us here also hope that we're wrong, but it is better to be safe than sorry.

We do have a ton of information here, so don't hesitate in asking for help in doing your research. In fact, don't hesitate in asking any Y2K related question.

See ya. <:)=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), June 17, 1999.

How many Roosters are out there?

-- Me (nowhere@here.com), June 17, 1999.

Anyone else observe that most doomers think education is unnecessary and they gladly wear their illiteracy as a badge of great honor. Furthermore they can only function by labelling everything and everyone lest they be confused by the complexities of life. Their only response to intelligent banter consists of using words like crap and its' many derivatives. There is little hope of every engaging them in a fair debate; It would not be honorable to duel with an unarmed man.

-- yaleman (c@c.com), June 17, 1999.

Their snobbery vanishes like the mist when they fall beneath my club and I hear the lamentation of their women. Or when I point out that their scientistic paradigm is socially and culturally, rather than methodologically, based (forming, as it were, a mirror-image of the "superstition" that they purport to combat). And that their transparently cultural crusade would ultimately be better served by a multi-model approach, combined with, shall we say, a more permiable demarcation criteria. Then I steal their herds and set fire to their condominiums.

Throthgar

-- Throthgar (throth@hillpeople.org), June 17, 1999.

Drugs will do that to you Throthgar.

-- yaleman (c@c.com), June 17, 1999.

Throthgar, where is your village? I wish to apply for the milkmaid position.

-- Lisa (lisa@hills.moving), June 17, 1999.

Rooster,you ask how this could happen?simple,the true guiding force in the universe is irony.seriously this is just typical corporate mismanagement.what middle manager is going to go before a board of directors and say;"Well,we might have a problem,we should probably replace all of the computers and p.c.'s,it'll cost millions and might not be needed. Add in department heads never being honest with each other,and y2k's not that hard to understand

-- zoobie (zoobiezoob@yahoo.com), June 17, 1999.

Yaleman

If preparing for Y2K and taking seriously what the people on this forum are researching and preparing for makes one a doomer, then I would have to be considered a doomer. I am however, educated. National Merit Scholar - Bachelors in Mathematics, Masters in Psychology, 30 years in the field of computers, 19 years as a computer consultant. I believe that there are many among the ranks that you are calling doomers that are both intelligent and educated. It does not take education to be intelligent, however, and to recognize the danger inherent in the situations that we are facing. I am somewhat puzzled about why anyone would desire to debate this issue. I would think that we would all be trying desperately to determine the facts so that we could be prepared to offset as much danger to ourselves and our loved ones as possible. Beyond that we would be looking for ways to help make the transition into the year 2000 easier and if the worst case scenarios are played out - to preserve that part of our society that we value. These certainly are the reasons I frequent this forum.

-- Jean (jmacmanu@bellsouth.net), June 17, 1999.

Jean: that's what we thought, too: but with the polly-troll "doomer"- silencing that's all the rage, we were obviously quite mistaken.

-- Lisa (lisa@work.now), June 17, 1999.

Jean, perfect post! Copying & pasting as we type.

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), June 17, 1999.

Jean, preparing for Y2K does not a doomer make. I am preparing for Y2K also. The doomers IMHO are the ones that run around screaming that we're all going to die and cannot accept any possibility of less than a 10. Doomers are those that think we should all buy small school buses and bury them in the ground in the New Mexico desert with a hidden entrance into them. They have lots of weapons just in case any starving person happens to wander within 5 miles of their hidden school bus so they can shoot them and feed their bodies to their families. Doomers call anyone who hasn't got at least 43 tons of hard red spring wheat and an arsenal that matches that of a small African county, a Polly. Doomers often mistake Nostradamus as being God. A really good doomer has seem at least a dozen black helicopters and previously been whisked away by the Gray Aliens once or twice, for a really good anal probing. Doomers think that Paul Milne is a messenger of God and that 7-11's are of the devil. A Doomer has spare parts for things he doesn't even own and has at least 4.2 million boxes of matches stored in his well for safe keeping. Smart doomers have waterproof matches. Doomers use four letter words frequently and often misspell them. A Doomer thinks the other 99% of the population are Government shills. A true Doomer thinks that Mel Gibson in the movie Conspiracy Theory was also a Polly and did not have nearly enough locks on his food in his refrigerator to be taken seriously. True doomers have at least five locks on their coffee can and fourteen pounds of Semtex wired in the freezer compartment that goes off if you fumble with the keys too long. Most Doomers do not have a sense of humor. They think that Windows95 is the name of a rock group and computers are the tools of Satan. They sit in their driveways in the morning worrying that they can't get to work because not every traffic light along the way is green yet. Consequently many doomers are looking for jobs in the country. They think that WWF is real.

Therefore I would suggest you are not a doomer.

-- Craig (craig@ccinet.ab.ca), June 17, 1999.

Sweet Jesus, thanks for that great post Craig, real doomers are scary people Zeda

-- Zeda (rickster@n-jcenter.com), June 17, 1999.

Lisa,

My village needs milkmaids. We stopped carrying off Polly women because of their incessant whining - and they racked up enormous debts on our charge cards!

Throthgar

-- Throthgar (throth@hillpeople.org), June 17, 1999.

Rooster,

This forum is a useful place and can give you support. I know exactly how you feel. I posted something similar on csy2k (another forum) after I had my first sleepless y2k night. I got an equal mixture of help and hinderance in response. However, dealing with Y2k is all about critical thinking so actively participating in forums can actually help hone those skills. Good luck and stick around!

-- R (riversoma@aol.com), June 17, 1999.

heeheeheee, there's a whole lot of critical thinking on the Forum! Oh, you meant *that* kind  ;^)

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), June 17, 1999.

Craig

Just when I thought I was a doomer, I see that I need more matches.

-- Dog Gone (layinglow@rollover.now), June 17, 1999.

Craig

Good post. Just hope they aren't right eh?

Oh well to greater things they are about to drop the puck....best playoffs in years. No hockey next year????? A true Canadian disaster.

-- Brian (imager@home.com), June 17, 1999.

Craig,

Doomer, polly poking is regular fare here. Name please three regular posting "doomers" that meet the criteria you pose. Perhaps I havn't been paying attention.

-- Carlos (riffraff1@cybertime.net), June 17, 1999.

No credit for Milne.

-- Carlos (riffraff1@cybertime.net), June 17, 1999.

Rooster,

For what it's worth, there's major concern that small government entities and small businesses are taking a "fix on failure" approach to this issue.

They don't have the money to remediate and in some cases, they don't know WHAT to remediate, so they're waiting to "fix it if it breaks."

'Problem is, they may be waiting in a long line for help if it turns up broken.

Just my two cents. . .

:)

-- FM (vidprof@aol.com), June 17, 1999.