I went to a Richard Wiles y2k meeting and he is predicting famine. He also believes that Russia is planning for war against the U.S. as a direct result of not being ready for y2k. As a Christian he believes that America is ripe for judgment.

Also went to the y2k preparedness expo in Philly. Bought 50 lb. of dried eggs (2000) for 150.

I also decided that I was going to buy three solar panels 90 watts a piece, batteries, and a trace invertor to connect to my freezer. My heat is wood, water manual, and I have a tri fuel generator but I felt that I needed something to keep food apart from fuel and electric. I got a price of 3500 for the above items. Also bought a nice Lodge Dutch Oven 12" for $40. Got to hear a little of Bo Gritz. Anyone hear of him? b

-- BB (peace2u@bellatlantic.net), June 13, 1999

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Hmmmmmm..... Listening to old live recordings of Kate Wolf on public radio, cleaned and filled 2 55 gal. drums of water (it's hot here and the water district has no back up supply if the system is down at all), hatching out more chicks (should have plenty of laying hens come Y2k), more gravy mixes, misc. seasonings/sauces, matches, fuel, tp stored - a little more each week. Reminded my mom to fill her water storage and hustle up on her purchases - if she is going to do it she might as well do it now. Working on a solar oven right now - cardboard, cheapie, haven't used my gas oven lately as the kitchen is already "cookin'". A good weekend overall...

-- Kristi (securx@succeed.net), June 13, 1999.

hmm, ordered some software we needed and received a late wedding present which, as it happened, was the Lodge 6 quart dutch oven...we'd been planning to buy one with the wedding money, but God graced us with this one as a wedding gift.

Arlin

-- Arlin H. Adams (ahadams@ix.netcom.com), June 13, 1999.

Glad to here bo is O.K. was concerned after hearing the media propoganda that he shot himself. I dont think so. I voted for him in 92 only candidate that had the guts to call our govt for what it truly is. It takes leadership and courage to expose them. Bo Knows from still inside sources what a custerf--k our Govt has become at the top.

-- y2k aware mike (y2k aware mike @ conservation . com), June 13, 1999.

Sniff, sniff,

Watered the trees, did a load of whites and humored trolls.

-- Carlos (riffraff1@cybertime.net), June 13, 1999.

Yeah, I heard of Bo... even thought he made a bit of sense til I got to the "Jew" part...then it went down, down, down...

-- Unc D (unkeed@yahoo.com), June 13, 1999.

We used to mourn that there was no community of like-minded souls we could live with, as ppl do in the Higher Ages. We thought last summer than Y2K might bring out communities of strong, talented, skilled, independent-thought preppers who would band together and form neighborhoods for weathering the Y2K Storm. It almost seemed possible.

Now as we see even this Forum dissolving into semi-chaos, see positions hardening, hearts hardening, and massive delusive stubborn non-thinking and ego-turf-huffies out there, the last vestiges of community-wistfulness are blowing away, dandelion puffs to seed another dream in another life.

No more sighing over what obviously cannot be in this day and age.
The end of loss-of-ideal sadness.
This is a shift, an adjustment in mental preparedness. An acceptance of what is, and gearing up for a lone wolf facing of the Great Unknown.

xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx x

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), June 13, 1999.

Got delivery of Gold and Silver, trying to patch things up with my crazy girlfriend in Seattle, booked a two week holiday for us to England, France and Belgium.

Ah yes, some Moulles Marnieres et Pommes Frittes washed down with some spectacular Stella Artois should take my mind of of y2k - for a while... may not get to see Blighty again for a while :(

Put a substantial amount of moola into the Prudent Bear...

It's all outta my hands now... I'll get back into it in August...

Less than 100 working days to go now...

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), June 13, 1999.

I set up and tested my battery/inverter system, which will supplement my electric generator. (I wrote up a detailed description on Gary North's Home Power Generation Forum; the link is GN Home Power Generation - inverter sys

Received gold American Eagles from www.ajpm.com.

Did a Walmart run, got more toilet paper, canned goods, etc., for barter use.

Read Growing Garden Seeds: A Manual for Gardeners and Small Farmers.

-- Jack (jsprat@eld.net), June 13, 1999.

Cut more wood and added it to the pile. Tilled the garden, shopped for canning lids.

-- Tim (pixmo@pixelquest.com), June 14, 1999.

Pulled the motor and transmission out of an old 15 passenger van. Replaced a hydrolic hose on my backhoe. Plan to dig a pit in the hillside beside my house tomorrow to bury the van for use as a root cellar. Cleaned out place for my 500 gal. diesel fuel tank and my 300 gal. gasoline fuel to be placed. The kids hoed the garden. Received the two handheld CB radios from The Sportsman's Guide.

-- Joe Stout (joewstout@iswt.com), June 14, 1999.

My hubby's folks were visiting for a few days, we took them to the zoo, such a sad thing to witness. Caged animals, void of freedom, unaware of their rightful place. Made me think of y2k. Saying good- bye was tearful and painful...they're DGI's. Dug holes for the wind generator's support cables. Made some excellent sourdough pancakes for breakfast on the wood burning stove (I love that thing). We have some goslings hatching as I speak (peeping in the shells).

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), June 14, 1999.

My Y2k purchases this weekend were:

2 gallons of bottled water
1 can of pink salmon
3 cans of vegetable soup
1 large can of fruit cocktail
1 container of iodized salt
2 rolls of toilet paper
3 boxes of blue-tip matches
1 bottle of lamp oil
1 quart of 10W-30 motor oil

-- (not@this.time), June 14, 1999.

Had to travel long distance on Saturday, but it gave me the opportunity to shop in a bigger city with a Costco. Got to polish up some of the final things on my list.

Topped off the battery bank.

Dug holes and set peirs for a shed over the water tank and framed all but the roof.

Planted a Granny Smith Apple tree.

-- marsh (armstrng@sisqtel.net), June 14, 1999.

Good thread. Perhaps we could share our weekend experiences every week?

-- Tim (pixmo@pixelquest.com), June 14, 1999.

Bought some canning supplies, more bottled water, canned goods, dry mixes, candles, peat moss and top soil. Made payment on rototiller.

Now I'm broke until next paycheck.

-- Randolph (dinosaur@williams-net.com), June 14, 1999.

Expanded the herb garden by 1/2 with my neighbor's child as a helper.

Visited the garden at the culinary school another neighbor attends, helped select plants for her part of our community square foot garden.

Swapped bean seeds with a guy at church. Gave another man the arugula plants he had me dry for seeds so he can shell them.

Inventoried the orchard on the property we are buying next door; Over a dozen full grown fruit trees.

Started compiling a co-op order for everyone at church, bulk foods.

Ordered books for the homeopathy study group, especially first aid and infectious disease texts.

Bought a set of Henckel knives at the Salvation Army for $5.95.

-- seraphima (seraphima@aol.com), June 14, 1999.

Burnt brush, reading Rodale's Guide to Composting, started compost pile, weeded/mulched garden, picked off cabbage worms, put up more fence, pulled out stumps, printed off catsup and other tomatoe canning reciepts from internet, logged in a bunch of toothpaste, shampoo, etc off of the purchase list and put up, talked to druggist about y2k, put up a bucket of flour and put 30 more pounds of beans in freezer...don't worry about it Carlos, my laundry has been hanging on the line since Monday and smells like pine smoke!:-)

Ashton and Leska, Get some rest, neighbor.

-- Lilly (homesteader145@yahoo.com), June 14, 1999.

Spent Saturday morning at a Y2K Info Town Meeting which drew about 75 people, acting as a "resource person" (someone who can share practical y2k preparation tips) for citizens who had questions about y2k prep. Then put 500 miles on the car looking for rural properties. Spent last evening trying to convince my husband that a rural second property was the "prudent" thing to do. Don't those DWGI's take up so much energy?

-- Gail (fialkow@erols.com), June 14, 1999.

We are working on a new workshop with a small basement. I do not worry about having a deep freeze, or eggs or community spirit, although I certainly applaud those working on these things. But I dread heat worse than anything, so I keep the house too cool in summer, but I make up for it in winter, as I keep it too cool then also. We hope to use our small basement as a place to go when the heat is 90+ as it was much of last summer. We've spent too much money doing this, but felt like it would be useful no matter what happens.

I worked in the garden as usual, went to Wal-Mart for soaker hose, and it seems Wal-Mart has a glut of canning jars. Does this mean everyone is stocked, or the DGI's haven't GI yet?

-- gilda (jess@listbot.com), June 14, 1999.

gilda, i too have noticed a glut of canning jars, but the prices still seem to be holding up.

this weekend i added another hive body to my three bee hives, *finally* got my generator wired in correctly instead of just backfeeding the box (whew!), put up more cabinets in my basement, and my wife organized our food and supply storage area.

keep up the good work, folks.

-- Cowardly Lion (cl0001@hotmail.com), June 14, 1999.

Went to an old fashioned swap-meat, We bought rabbits (5 does & 1 buck), chickens (12 grown hens & they thru in 5 babies for free), turkeys (13 babies), large 30 gal waterer for fowl, 3/55gal water barrels (for humans), a rabbit cage,............. and partridge in a pair tree.

picked 16 qt of strawberrys, canned jelly. (Cant wait for our blackberry patch to ripen.) Moved some cattle around, from one field to another for better grass.

Went to church, that to me is as important of a prep as any other.

-- bulldog (sniffin@around.com), June 14, 1999.

Filled two buckets with packets of grain, beans, dried potatoes, and dried mushrooms. Partner cleaned and organized the basement. I dehydrated another 5 lbs. of organic potatoes. Weeded the garden. Spent the last of our paychecks at Super KMart getting more garden seeds (for next year), paper towels, sheets and blanket, first aid stuff, summer clothing on sale and also at the grocery store, picking up pantry items... Found out that more people at church are becoming aware of y2k...

Packing those buckets made me aware of how much we don't have yet. Need more beans!!!

Good thread, let's do this once a week. It will spur us on through the lazy, hazy days of summer!

-- Libby Alexander (libbyalex@aol.com), June 14, 1999.

Celebrated Mom's 87th by cleaning the house (instead of stacking wood this weekend). Brought the parents home - the first time they have seen the new wood stoves. Puttered in the garden (still pretty hot) and stocked up on sun screen.

-- Brooks (brooksbie@hotmail.com), June 14, 1999.

Worked in the garden, experimented with cooking turnips & turnip greens, canned 12 quarts of chicken, picked up more tp, toiletries, canned foods, etc. at Walmart, helped husband cut and stack more wood (we plan to have 10 cords...almost there), husband made a wooden stand for hand water pump, tried to clear more shelf space in basement, made a list of things we still need to do... Jo

-- jo (jo@nowhere.somewhere), June 14, 1999.

Jo-- what did you discover about cooking turnips? I just harvested a bunch from the garden...

-- Libby Alexander (libbyalex@aol.com), June 14, 1999.

At a local rummage sale, I found two chimneys, different sizes, ones for each of my oil lamps (an Alladin, & a cheapie).

Lots of candles are still available at garage stores. People are still essentially giving candles away -- that's one tiny indication that the average person is totally clueless on y2k.

-- candle (queen@of.ohio), June 14, 1999.

What a great relaxing and encouraging thread. Love it. Our Walmart doesn't have jars except jelly. But the jars are usually seasonal and now is the season so better get 'em now. Re TURNIPS I have developed a recipe that my family loves. Grate the turnip and put into a collender and let it drain. Then mix in egg and a little flour, salt and pepprer and just a tad of nutmeg. Form into patties and fry. The first one tastes bland but as you eat them the taste buds wake up and you want more and more. Today I am going to grate them, drain them, add salt and a dash of sugar and can. What did I do this weekend? I canned both days, veggies from garden. Here in Florida the garden is almost done for the summer. Will plant again in Sept. Hubby wired new 40 kw generator to the pump and the electrical contractor is supposed to come and wire the generator to the house. Also mowed the lawn and trimmed feet of two of my 8 donkeys.

Taz

-- Taz (Tassie @aol.com), June 14, 1999.

I found wool blend yarn on sale for $1 a skien at Wal-Mart. I have a sewing business and have lots of sewing supplies stocked. I buy more fabric, zippers, elastic, etc, to store than most people do. If you have a treadle base for a sewing machine, the peddle intact and working, then it is easy to convert an electric machine to treadle. Get the type of sewing machine that has the belt on the outside of the motor. You can find these types at flea markets, but I would go to a sewing machine shop to get a good used one for little money. Then simply attache the treadle belt to the machine motor pulley, and TA DA, a manual machine. You can still buy the treadle belt at any Sewing Machine/Repair Store. Mine was about $5.

-- Carol (glear@usa.net), June 14, 1999.

Went to college reunion weekend and talked to a refreshingly new group of people (fraternity brothers) with diverse backgrounds who would not lie to me. To summarize what I got...

(1) Pilot of 777 refuses to do his Dallas to Japan flight near the end of the year, but otherwise seemed fairly clueless.

(2) Serious hacker turned manager who currently works for California based power company agreed that problems were coming, but gave a true slippery slope scenario a very low probability. He was one of the more thoughtful, well-spoken "pollys" that I had run into. He did, however, express that it was a very interesting event coming.

(3) Person at a major chip maker which for legal reasons we'll call "Texas something" said that work with a major telecom company ("Nor- Troll") said they were uncovering "catastrophic problems". Problem was I couldn't figure out if they really knew what they were talking about.

For the most part they were all DGI's. (Some may now be DWGI's).

Dropped $4k at Sam's Club on Friday. I feel true sympathy for GI's who are fiscally cornered. Good luck.

-- Dave (aaa@aaa.com), June 14, 1999.

Manual sewing machines? **groan** Maybe the comet will kill us all first & we'll be spared...

Does anyone here REALLY want to live in the 19th century?

-- I want (my@m.tv), June 14, 1999.

Canned 6 quarts of new potatoes, picked green beans, re-arranged pantry (again!) to create more storage space, started re-arranging a kid's closet to hold water in 2 1/2 gallon containers, bought peaches to can in slices and as jam, weeded flower bed, and worked on a presentation on "Food Storage and Preservation" to be given Tuesday night at a local church's y2k meeting.

I think a weekly 'what I did to prepare this week' thread would be a great incentive. Thanks for the input, guys and gals. Linda

-- newbiebutnodummy (Linda@home.com), June 14, 1999.

Our Solar Sensor light is up and working! :-) We replaced a 12 year old ceiling fan and some fence pickets, too. Played in the garden a little, but it rained a lot this weekend. (Lots of tomatoes and cucumbers!)

-- Gayla Dunbar (privacy@please.com), June 14, 1999.

Fun thread! Put in pump from creek to water garden and greenhouse without needing to rely on spring to house. Progressively drying and storing seeds, now that this year's planting is complete. Purchased some additional, uh, self-defense items and, um, support for those items. Ordered gasoline for new tank (200 gallons) and clear kero (150 gallons) for non-electric lighting. Selected some books building skills in a variety of areas to be ordered today.

-- BigDog (BigDog@duffer.com), June 14, 1999.

Had a friend with a backhoe put the rounded river stone on our roof. Dug 1/2 the trench for the gravity water supply to the pumphouse. Built the pumhouse for the pump and pressure tank. This topic is excellent. I don't feel so alone now, knowing that others are working as hard as we are.

-- bunny&princess (neilw@infoserve.net), June 14, 1999.

is it better to keep getting more & more & more of the basics (tp, ammo, rice) or to diversify into new stuff gadgets and whatnot ?

-- svetlana (s@s.c), June 14, 1999.

Big Dog: How are you storing your gasoline and kero? I'm so afraid of gasoline....and the 5 gal plastic containers can really add up in cost. Sweetie and I cleaned another 10 chickens and I canned them - and 16 pints of carrots and 12 quarts of green beans. I tried out a recipe for pickled broccoli(actually used a recipe for cauliflower but hope it is the same)- only did 6 pints to try it out. I'm going to save all the beef and pork canning until the fall when it is cooler. So far, we've not had to water the garden even once!!

-- jeanne (jeanne@hurry.nowq), June 14, 1999.

Jeanne --- We picked up a used but fine heavy-duty tank with hand pump for $100. Agree with you about storage risks otherwise, except in small quantities. Using Sta-bil, we hope to keep 200 gallons fresh and stor-able with an end of year delivery on top of the regular ones.

Kero stored in heavy-duty plastic drums. Would prefer tanks, but I'm reasonably OK on it (these drums are tough) and we will store away from barn. Kero company thought they would do fine, which was encouraging.

We can always pump from creek to put out fire (that is one of the sideline reasons for the creek pump ... puts out awesome quantities of water at full-speed). Just kiddding about fire, I hope.

-- BigDog (BigDog@duffer.com), June 14, 1999.

Swam laps in my pool getting ready for the 2000/3000 Ft Tsunami [Tidal Wave] per Andy's post.

-- thinkIcan (thinkIcan@make.it), June 14, 1999.

Zip. Nada. Saw The Phantom Menace. Celebrated my 5th wedding anniversary. Tonight, I am going to see Dave Matthews in concert. Tomorrow I'm going to a Cubs-Brewers game.

My life is not consumed by preparing. I am trying to enjoy summer, and life in general. Most of my preps (not nearly as extensive as many here) are completed. In a wait-and-see holding pattern.

-- regular (zzz@z.z), June 14, 1999.

Me? Finished putting up more shelves in the basement, took care of a GirL Scout day camp setup, fixed the band truck for the high school, fixed van and car (tires, brakes, tuneup), fixed bike tires and got new helmet, got hand pump for water barrels, ...

Svetlana = Definitely more fun to get new stuff. TP and rice are boring. One cannot live on eats and TP alone...

Cleaned and canned chickens, eh? Did you remove the unedible parts too? What did the chickens think about getting stuffed in the can? (Now, I'll agree chickens are relatively stupid, but it seems like they would flip and flop around and complain a lot when you tried to stuff a wet, freshly washed chicken in those little bitty cans....or were they still dizzy from going around in circles in the dryer?) Did you use the rinse and spin, or the delicate cycle in the washing machine?

-- Robert A. Cook, PE (Kennesaw, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), June 14, 1999.

Robert, In graduate school, we sent turkeys through the hot rinse cycle of the equipment dish washer to loosen their feathers. A real bear to pluck, otherwise.

-- Brooks (brooksbie@hotmail.com), June 14, 1999.

Signed up for a ladies' self-defense class at the "Y".

-- Joyce (seajoyce@aol.com), June 14, 1999.

Now look, even I know enough to know you can't pluck bears. But if you did, would you get "fully bared bear a**es", or "furry bears with fuzzy a**es.." Or just mad bare bears?

-- Robert A. Cook, PE (Kennesaw, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), June 14, 1999.

Uh-oh. Robert has been unleashed again. Hold on tight.

-- BigDog (BigDog@duffer.com), June 14, 1999.

Still moving some stuff out of our old garage. I have become a first- rate pack rat, and I won't discard ANYTHING. Seems to me every scrap of clothing (way too small or way too hideous... does polyester rot? It seems indestructible...) has a future as part of a quilt or rag- rug, or even as mulch for a techni-color garden.

Trying to get herbs in ground. Went to local "ONE DOLLAR ONLY" type store, got more candles, duct tape, jars, etc... lots of spices (I'm sticking to ones that won't grow locally, like bay leaves and cinammon, etc.

Wondered how long it will take to hand mow (with a scythe) a 5 acre hay field...

-- Arewyn (nordic@northnet.net), June 14, 1999.

Did Dave say $4k at Sam's?

Spent the weekend canning potatoes and carrots. Ordered two cords of wood to go with the one we already have. Bought spare filters, etc. for the garden tractor. Had the 250-gallon propane tank filled. The 1,000-gallon is full already. Committed to buying a 500-gallon diesel tank to complement the 250-gallon gasoline tank.

Agree that this is a thread worth repeating on a weekly basis.

-- Vic (Rdrunner@internetwork.net), June 14, 1999.

As I reported on a polly vs. doomer thread below, I got my wife to be a GI thanks to 60 minutes transcript (thanks to whoever posted), and I got my allergic mother to start canning.

I contacted my solar guy and that will move forward.

I made no actual preps except for storing the empty water bottles.

Water, water, food...

Water, water, food...

Water, water, food...

-- nothere nothere (nothere@nothere.com), June 14, 1999.

Saturday.Spent two hours wandering round a street market looking for a cheap covered butter dish & acquired three large plastic sweet jars for nothing.Good for storing spagetti/noodles etc.Pep talked mother. Sunday.Gardened .Picked,cooked & froze first of the perpetual spinach. Filed away all those tips I've printed out...at last.

-- Chris (griffen@globalnet.co.uk), June 14, 1999.

Checked inventory and made notes to She Who Must Be Obeyed for restocking this week.

Answered questions from young lady whose father has been prepping and has been getting static from Grandpa. Told her to have her dad call me if he needs more info and/or moral support.

Researched sources for additional (and prudent) prep funding (see other thread re "End of June").

Re-established contact with older brother, from whom I've become somewhat estranged in the past few years. If things do go sideways, family comes first...

-- Mac (sneak@lurk.hid), June 14, 1999.

Spent some romantic time with my lovely wife, Went to a company picnic.

I'm gonna miss my life.

Anyone read Asimov's Nemesis?

Kind of Sureal, isn't it? Just in a different Vain.

-- Father (hale.tg@att.net), June 14, 1999.

bunny&princess- Do you girls like ever like to mudwrestle?

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.com), June 14, 1999.

Stocked up on cleaning supplies, cooking implements, and food. Watched it rain, and rain, and rain. Weekends just aren't long enough.

-- DJ (reality@check.com), June 14, 1999.

Went to the farm and hoed the garden, watered the new trees, pulled weeds and did a lot of sweating! Stopped and looked at our "country retreat" and felt darn good about it all. Inventoried the food storage rooms - well, got a start anyway. I realize that the folks on this forum have helped me a lot over the past year and a half. I don't write much, but I LURK compulsively. Thanks to all. Glad to see Joe Stout is with us, too. Joe, we're friends from the original GN forums. Glad you're still here! ben

-- ben (benalurker@usa.net), June 14, 1999.

Walked around garden/weeded then I had to leave for the whole weekend. Plan to do more shopping next week!

-- Moore Dinty moore (not@thistime.com), June 14, 1999.

Libby, re: turnips - maybe we are just boring but found we liked the turnips best boiled with just a little butter. The greens were delicious boiled for three minutes and sprinkled with salt. We're planning a big fall crop to try and store in the ground over the winter (can you do that in zone 5?) Are also going to try this with beets and carrots. Any other suggestions anyone?

I agree with others, I love this thread - just knowing I have someplace to report all this hard work will give me the motivation to keep going.

Jo

-- Jo (jo@nowhere.somewhere), June 14, 1999.

Went on a 3 day backpacking/fishing trip to a un-named alpine lake in the Chugachs Mountains, here in south-central Alaska. To tune my body , clear my mind and catch fish. Mission accomplished.

-- Capt Dennis (souza@ptialaska.net), June 14, 1999.

BB:

Would you please expound upon the Richard Wiles' Y2K meeting regarding famine in America and war from Russia due to Y2K? I found your comments more interesting than your question.

-- Randolph (dinosaur@williams-net.com), June 14, 1999.

Great thread. We canned blueberry jam. The berries are just coming into season now. Made peach jam on Sunday. Pulled up the last of the sugar snap peas except the plants I'm saving for seed and blanched and froze 'em. Put up kale, squash and pulled the vidalia onions and braided 'em to hang. Planted a few cucumbers for relish and bush beans and some more basil for pesto. Has anyone had any experience canning pesto?

-- mb (mdbutler@coastalnet.com), June 14, 1999.

Jo,

If you plan to leave them in the garden try putting bales of hay on top or bags full of leaves. Might be better to pack them in damp sand in boxes in an unheated garage if you have one. Something like parsnips would overwinter a little better than turnips I think. Just my $.02

mb in NC where is doesn't get below 20 degrees very often.

-- mb (mdbutler@coastalnet.com), June 14, 1999.

worked on my truck, made pickled eggs, dehydrated some apples, saved a couple more water bottles.

If you're gonna make pickled eggs, consider using small eggs not extra large. You waste less space and liquid in each jar that way, and the liquid probably penetrates them better (more suface area/volume).

Hey Libby, what's with the dried potatoes? Do you dry them raw? When you use them, do you have to soak them a while, or just drop 'em in boiling water?

-- (y2kbiker@worldnet.att.net), June 14, 1999.

Dinosaur,

Maybe I can get this in without being asked to go over to Pastor Chris' forum.

Wiles has a website americashope.com/ You can click on meetings and call the Nutley, N.J. church and buy two tapes of the meeting for only ten dollars.

Wiles used to be the marketing executive for TBN. God called him to repentance and then showed him that He was going to remove His protecting hand over America. Wiles shows how that when a nation turns from God they get invaded. He sees that happening to the U.S. This attack on America will result in food shortages due to many reasons. Wiles is not the only Christian who sees God's judgments coming to our land. There are many others including myself. The only safety is in the risen Lord. Read John 8:24.

I cannot believe all these posters making these preps. Where did all these people come from? It is indeed very encouraging and somewhat intimidating. I admire how talented and knowledgeable some people are. I wished I lived next to them. God's blessings on you all. Don't forget Him. Getting close to Him is the most important preparation. b

-- BB (peace2u@bellatlantic.net), June 14, 1999.

Bought a cheap grain mill made in Mexico. $24.99 at little mexican grocery in town. It did a great job on wheat. Baked bread and dinner rolls. My family has decided I should stop buying store bought bread and bake our own from now on. Pulled weeds in garden. The Early Girl tomatoes are covered with golf ball sized tomatoes. The plants are twice the size of Brandywine tmatoes. The Brandywines are just starting to flower. Picked the first summer squash this year. Washed a ton of laundry. Going through stuff so I can have a yard sale soon. I need both the $$$ and the space.

-- Homeschooling Grandma (mlaymon@glenn-co.k12.ca.us), June 15, 1999.

Cleaned and filled 2 55 gallon drums with H20. Added two more toothbrushes and some childrens Tylenol to stash accumulating since October. Went to Menards to get a steel door/deadbolt to replace our thin wooden silly-locking back door. On track for essential prep finish deadline of 8-1-99. Still need to test all equipment by that time, and more 12 gauge ammo and kerosene to get yet too. When 8-1-99 comes, we just want to add those little luxuries that might help make life bearable. Like this thread.

-- (y2kfallback@yahoo.com), June 15, 1999.

BB:

Thank you so much for the link and information. I agree with you regarding the spiritual concerns.

Your question was very popular and brought many *ants* out of the woodwork!

-- Randolph (dinosaur@williams-net.com), June 15, 1999.

Bought more canning lids, a heavy cast aluminum bundt pan (for all those cake mixes I have stored!). Finished up the band-aids, gauze and tape for the medicine chest. Bought more canned vegetables (I can see the light at the end of the tunnel!!).Vacuum sealed more quart jars of dry food, vacuum sealed more seeds. Bought tickets for trip to Sacremento next month. Made list of things still needed.

-- Dian (bdp@accessunited.com), June 16, 1999.