The Last Days!!!

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We are living in the last days. It is the fulfillment of prophecy when there will be final judgement. No escape no one can save you not your spouse, stock broker, attorney, insurance company. Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall tell. There is a lot of apathy and denial but now it is becoming more clear every day. I await the coming of the Lord so I can be recieved into the Kingdom Of God. Are you ready when the Lord Jesus Christ comes for you?

-- Disciple_of_the_Apocalypse (rayelee@yahoo.com), June 09, 1999

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Does God only save Christians?

-- Anonymous99 (Anonymous99@Anonymous99.xxx), June 09, 1999.

I've always wondered if "Christains" are the ONLY angels up there myself! My Son asked one Christmas...."Mama, what color are Angles?" Think about THAT one.....bible thumpers!

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), June 09, 1999.

>Does God only save Christians?

Yes, he keeps them in a little box labeled 'Self-Rightous'. Everyone else he just lets into heaven.

-- aaaaaaa (aaa@aaa.org), June 09, 1999.


Apocalypse person,

Hey--- you may be interested in some sandwich boards I've got im my garage. You may get more accomplished on a busy steet corner!! D.B.

-- David Butts (dciinc@aol.com), June 09, 1999.


"Are you ready when the Lord Jesus Christ comes for you? "

Well, I'll try my best, but if recent experiences with people "coming for me" are anything to go by, he may have to wait a few minutes while I brush my teeth, and shave, and put on some cologne.

Anyway, whats the hurry ? After all, if he's OFFERED to drive, and its a nice place were headed for, then the least I can do is look presentable. Its only fair. And tell him not to sit out on the driveway honking the car horn to hurry me up either. My neighbours hate me enough already, what with the last party, and the dog and all. (I still say that cat was asking for it.)

So, I guess the best thing would be for him to sit on the couch and relax, and drink a coffee or something while I'm busying around. I'm always happy to offer drinks and munchies, my fridge is an open door, (thats why the beers are warm).

By the way, is someone collecting a "pool" for gas money ? Or is this one a freebie ?

-- Lets Party !!! (jesus@is.driving.(apparently)), June 09, 1999.



Not necessarily wanting to perpetuate this thread in any way, but I thought "Will Continue's" comment deserved an answer.

Actually "Will Continue", when people die, they do not become angels and have to earn their wings. That is a common misperception as is the concept of the cute, cherubic creatures that are often portrayed as angels. Not sure where that got started . . . perhaps through the "It's a wonderful life" movie?

Scriptures describe angels as separate, created beings who serve many different roles in Heaven and on earth; messengers, warriors, guardians, ministers to the saints, worshippers in Heaven, etc. Scriptures also describe them as awesome, great in size, radiant, powerful and mighty. And while we have no scriptural indication as to their color, my guess is that they have a variety of colors. After all, the same God who created the wonderful variety of colors of men and women, also created the angels.

I think I get your point though. Many pictures of angels and Jesus always make them appear Caucasian. That indeed is pretty narrow and self-serving. At the very least, we know that Jesus was Jewish and probably had dark skin while here on earth; and the Book of Revelations describes His skin as the color of bronze in Heaven.

Anyway, I thought maybe you'd find this interesting.

-- David (David@BankPacman.com), June 09, 1999.


Boy, as if we haven't had enough debate on which side of the Y2K fence we all stand on, but now you get some joker trying to make us fight about where we stand on the Almighty with this one. to the person who made that crack about the Self-Righteous box God has, lol. Personally, I don't want to be saved if it means I have to spend eternity with some of these bible-thumpers. Sorry God, if that's what the reservation list looks like I think I'll head down south...

-- (workathome@atl.ga), June 09, 1999.

Angels are the color of water.

-- Carol (abc@abc.com), June 09, 1999.

Thank you David. I do in fact believe strongly in my God. Your comments where most interesting. I attended bible classes every day in high school and agree with all you've said. It always does my heart good to hear from people who ARE in fact, "deeper than a spoon". I find this aspect of Christianity to be by far the most disturbing, to me anyway.

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), June 09, 1999.

I've asked this before and nobody has answered, so here I go again. Has anyone read "The Earth Chronicles" by Zecharia Sitchin. This is not Science Fiction, but an interpretation of Sumerian tablets in the British Museum. I heard about this on another forum and bought the series of books, which makes more sense than anything I've read, and actually explains events in the Bible.

I went to search and checked out Zecharia Sitchin and there are 159 topics about him. Check it out, it's interesting.

I'm not trying to start anything, for my ears are still scorced from David's last blast. But I would like to discuss the Sitchin books, if anyone has read them.

-- gilda (jess@listbot.com), June 09, 1999.



don't let the prospect of sharing heaven with 'self-righteous bible thumpers' dissuade you from following the Way, the Truth, and the Life. paraphrasing here, there will be many who call Lord, Lord, but He wil not recognize their faces.

-- Cowardly Lion (cl0001@hotmail.com), June 09, 1999.

Anyone who says he or she is a disiple isn't one.

Halp, Halp, run for your lives. The phariasees are after you!

-- (Yoweee@runforyourlife.com), June 09, 1999.


CowardlyLion,

You sure don't straw for brains...couldn't have said it better myself.

-- (herehere@Oz.com), June 09, 1999.


Gilda: I couldn't force myself to wade through all seven (eight?) of the Sitchen books, but since I was curious about what he had to say I read "Everything You Know is Wrong" by Lloyd Pye. One section of that book is a condensation of Sitchen's work. Fascinating stuff.

-- Pearlie Sweetcake (storestuff@home.now), June 09, 1999.

one thing i ain,t is self-righteous, i blow it daily, i,m being processed, i was responding to ''last days post'' even folks who ain,t into [religion] yuk i hate religion, are sensing , the world ain,t gettin any better. i notced awhile back, ther was alotta discussion about littleton colo. nobody got upset when one post mentioned, gee, we might have a spiritual problem in good ole, u.s.a.---if i offended some, what can i say?? i ain,t ashamed of my faith. ''ain,t no atheists in foxholes'' so kick me off the forum, like as if that,ll stop-truth. but i can dig-it. this ain,t a religeous site.no problemo, wish you all the best.

-- al driscol (catt@zianet.com), June 09, 1999.


One of the joys (or at least relief) on this forum has been observing the quietly private, judiciously shared, and intelligently approached nature of many modern Christians' faith when an issue like y2k brings them into the company of non-believers.

My stereotypes and fears of right-wing religious fanatics have receded in the company here of many believers I have come to respect and enjoy reading.

It seems to me that the initial upsurge of evangelizing in the 70s and 80s has leveled. I now believe that most Christians are people quite like myself who are faced with sorting out the pressures and responsibilities of a crazy century, and they are diligently working on their own _internal_ set of values to the eventual betterment of all of us.

I also believe that y2k as a technological issue has pre-empted some of the more crazy religious nuts, and that most Christians welcome the relief from embarrassment this has given them.

The best values of "the 60s" and the teachings of Jesus have been compatible for me all my adult life. They are timeless, and based upon what the human souls really are inside of us. The excesses may make headlines for awhile, but most of us are really just trying to do our best each day.

-- jor-el (jor-el@krypton.uni), June 09, 1999.


Anonymous99,

To answer your question, (1 Timothy 1:15) "This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief."

The great news is that Jesus Christ came to save sinners. When a sinner realizes how destitute and filthy he is in the eyes of God and learns that only the blood of Jesus Christ can cleanse from sin, and repents and trusts in Jesus Christ for salvation, he becomes a child of God. A Christian is one who is Christ like.

The Bible says (Romans 3:23) "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

Where do you stand today my friend?

-- trafficjam (judgementday@ahead.soon), June 09, 1999.


a resounding, rite-on JO-REL. GOD sent his son to save,not destroy. the word sinner, has been abused, it simply means to miss the mark, like who doesn,t ephesians chapter 2; verse 6--8, says it all, eternal life[in] gods son is a FREE gift. nobody can get good enough to earn it. people confuse salvation with spiritual growth. one is a done deal the other is a process.hell if we could be perfect what would we need a saviour for????? flame away amigos,,

-- al-d. (catt@zianet.com), June 10, 1999.

Gilda

re origins of Christianity, John Allegro's "The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross" is also mucho interessante....

-- Debbie (dbspence@usa.net), June 10, 1999.


On second thought, forget it. Just being provocative.... :-)

Gotta stay off these religious threads.

-- Debbie (dbspence@usa.net), June 10, 1999.


I'll try not to make the mistake of shooting the messenger while ignoring the message. In the same sense that nobody KNOWS how bad Y2K will be, I suggest that nobody KNOWS whether or not we are living in the last days. I am reminded, however, that Sir Isaac Newton (generally considered one of the top 10 intellects of all history) devoted much of his study to the timing of "last days" events and, in fact, published a book dealing mainly with the prophecies of Daniel 9. He concluded (this was the father of modern calculus, mind you) that the events would be fulfilled around the year 2000. [Do a web search on "isaac newton" and "70 weeks" or "daniel" if interested.]

I recently tuned in a broadcast of an organization called "The Prophecy Club" (whose name sounds suspiciously like the "700 Club"). They're on the web at www.prophecyclub.com, but the site is lacklustre, in my opinion. Some of their guest speakers, however, will scare you out of your boots!!

Their latest broadcasts deal directly with Y2K and the Iridium satellite system. Downloads for RealPlayer or RealAudio are at:

http://209.155.11 2.102/pclub/html/latest2.htm and http://209.155.112.102 /pclub/default.htm

From the default.htm page, some of the more intelligent commentary I heard was from the following serials:

Iridium Satellite System & Kosovo by Michael Bunker

Joint Chief of Staff by Al Cuppett

The Iridium System Bill Deagle

Soviet Plans For America by Jeff Nyquist

Kosovo by Doug Todd

Year 2000 Update by Brig. General Ed Wheeler

Judgement Day 2000 by Rick Wiles

-- Zach Anderson (z2k@usa.net), June 10, 1999.


People, The world today is a scary place, real scary. I could let that thought rule my days and my life but I take great comfort in the fact that God is in control and Jesus is my savior. That's all you really need.

-- rick (I'mset@home.house), June 10, 1999.

and you need rice and beans,it's extreme arrogance to just say,"the lord will provide",could that not mean he'll provide you the insight that you need to carry your pious ass down to sams to buy a hundred pounds of rice and beans?how about a little humility?

-- zoobie (zoobiezoob@yahoo.com), June 10, 1999.

Zoobie, Arrogance?? What are you talking about? Of course I am preparing. If you have ever read any of my past posts here you would know that. I also have guns to defend my family. Perhaps the only ass you see is when you look in the mirror.

-- rick (I'mset@home.house), June 10, 1999.

Jor-el, always enjoy your posts. Too bad you work for THEM. (Make mine Marvel)

-- Spidey (iln@jam.commie), June 11, 1999.

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