The Pope & I Ponder the End of the Word

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Philip Ponders a New Renaissance and Pope John Paul II Ponders the End of the End

*** Philip:

'...i think it is quite simplistic to reduce free speech; free discussion to a single interpretation of paranoia. if anything, the lessons of the simplistic; the egocentric; have been monumental failures - one antibiotic fighting one bacteria doesn't work; a magic bullet for cancer doesn't work. it could be safe to say that spiritual absolution doesn't work; the simple; direct answers of absolutists fall short particularly in the area of consciousness. the 21st Century will use multivariate anaylsis mainly because the new generation of computers are becoming available - holistic truths derived from the interaction of many pathways including the solution to the mind/body problem; the expansion of belief systems into the subsconscious realm; the development of psychic science, if you will. these, of course, are dreams; dreams, IMO, which close the book on paranoia as a simplistic criticism; paranoia as a mental block to human evolution...

*** http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/ap/international/story.html?s=v/ap/19990526/wl/pope_end_of_the_world_1.html

Pope Ponders the End of the World

VATICAN CITY (AP) - Pope John Paul II said Wednesday that it is natural for humans to wonder when the world will end, and advised all to await the day with serenity and hope.

``Nowadays, everything happens with incredible speed - because of the breakthroughs in science and technology and the expanded means of communication,'' the pontiff said at his weekly audience in St. Peter's Square.

``It is therefore natural to question what humanity's destiny is and what its final goal is,'' he said.

The pontiff, who turned 79 last week, told the hundreds of pilgrims who assembled in the square on this perfectly sunny day that the tension surrounding the ``final event'' must be faced with ``calm hope.''

-- Philip Henika (zowie@telis.org), May 28, 1999

Answers

Philip,

I trust the Pope was speaking with a view of hopefullness for all mankind in your exerpt. Those who live in fear of course will die in fear. Attempting to live day by day I live in the hope of coming to realize the full extent of The Father's love for His children.

Paranoia as was taught to me during psyche classes was as follows: Eat or be Eaten. Sad life those who live in that realm of thought.

Peace And Well Being.

Jean B.

-- Jean Bouchard (jeanb@cwk.imag.net), May 28, 1999.


Jean B ---

I really think that Catholics and others start to respond to the Tribulation; that they will eventually realize that the nature and manifestation of this particular Tribulation is based on the evil of Reincarnate Souls - Revelation's "angels", if you will; that a 'war' will descend from Heaven. How is this different? I think the 'reincarnate soul' aspect to this Tribulation makes it different; this surprise which, if let go, will express the full Revelation's "thirds" - a third of the the Earth will perish, if we do not become somewhat proactive in the production of a counterforce to the reincarnate souls, not in the abandonment of belief system but rather in the expansion of belief systems into that realm in which evil, reincarnate souls dwell. Thus, I oppose waiting. I oppose hope. I replace poroactivity for both waiting and hope. Recall Ezekiel's watcher - one who watches for signs and perishes not with the mere watching but when the watcher fails to take action; to prevent.

Philip

-- Philip Henika (zowie@telis.org), May 29, 1999.


Philip: why live in fear and anguish, if you strive to live a truly christian life, then God is with you, and if God is with us, who can be against us?

"But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only" (mt 24,36)

Ufff! i can live in peace and tranquility!

ENRIQUE

-- ENRIQUE ORTIZ (eaortiz@yahoo.com), May 31, 1999.


The dream of Revelations is in the Bible. I do not fear it - one cannot fear it. I do not anguish over it - one cannot simply yield to its manifestation. I have studied prophecy and have made some observations; some indications that the sociopolitical scenario of Revelations is in progress. why not, then, as a global citizen, become proactive in its interpretation and the progression towards its solution. my point has been is that solution to Revelations is something that global citizens can participate in - the formation of an inevitable new renaissance - one in which responsible men and women work together to expand their belief systems toward its understanding. and, in response to the Pope, we can use the Internet and form communications to spread the word just as quickly as the people who want to control the world - the Bilderberg Club. so, live in peace or become proactive - your choice as well as mine...

-- Philip Henika (zowie@telis.org), May 31, 1999.

Philip,

I have a comment and question for you.

First, my comment. In referring to the events foretold in Revelations, you said, "one cannot simply yield to its manifestation". Whether or not we yield to them does not change the fact that they will occur. God did not say these things were conditional on our actions. These things will happen. Since Revelations reveals God's will, to resist or fight the unfolding of these events is to fight God Himself.

Now, for my question(s). Can you clarify what you mean when you said "if we do not become somewhat proactive in the production of a counterforce to the reincarnate souls, not in the abandonment of belief system but rather in the expansion of belief systems into that realm in which evil, reincarnate souls dwell." What exactly are reincarnate souls and how did you come to this terminology? Certainly you don't believe in reincarnation? Could you be more specific in what you are trying to say with this? How is the Church to be more proactive? Using what means? To what end?

-- David (David@matt6:33.com), June 01, 1999.



Philip,

I re-read your original statement and have a few questions if I may:

What are you referring to when you say multivariate analysis and how do you think new computers are going to help? This is from someone who works as a senior analyst for a software development firm.

What do you see is the "mind/body problem"?

-- David (David@matt6:33.com), June 01, 1999.


Philip,

I do not turn my back on your troubled concerns for none have on this site. Perhaps reading Acts 16:16 may help regarding Demon of Divination and other areas regarding prophecy.

In short I feel divination is self serving and prophecy is not. This is a subject that will of course get all wheels churning. The oil to stop the noise is faith in Christ telling the Apostles " Hey Guys! Even I don't know!! The Father does though." Kind of a paraphrase you know.

Jean B.

-- jean bouchard (jeanb@cwk.imag.net), June 05, 1999.


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