I would like you to answer a few questions, just for the record, if you would please. (Yes or No) 1. Do you think, the code is broken? 2. Do you think, any system has a 20-30% fault tollerance built in? 3. Do you think, 8 or 9 cars running out of gas at the same time on a jammed freeway will cause a problem? 4. Do you think, a system with a 15% error rate will cause a problem? 5. Do you think, a computer can compute correctly with invalid data? Others, feel free to comment.

-- SCOTTY (BLehman202@aol.com), April 12, 1999

Answers

Scotty,

Here's my opinion;

No the code is not broken..it's only defective - as is all code.

No, I don't think 20 - 30% fault rate would be tollerable in any system.

8 or 9 cars running out of gas on a freeway might not be a problem if the freeway is 100 lanes across.

Computers never compute correctly with invalid data, that's up to us superior humans (superior to machines..that is) to see it and intervene.

Human intervention will always be required in automated systems controlled by dumb microprocessors and error-riddled software and hardware that is constantly being "patched" together because of vender obsolescence issues.

-- Neil Gordon (ngordon@stratos.net), April 12, 1999.

WAAAAAAY over Pro's head Scotty.

He can't contemplate but the emotional and the simple.

-- INVAR (gundark@sw.net), April 12, 1999.

Prediction: Y2K Pro = passive aggressive. He'll pass, pause and aggress, or aggress, pause and pass.

-- Larry (^^^^^@__.com), April 12, 1999.

No answers yet from Y2K Pro? I'm not surprised. I've asked our aviation industry Y2K project manager for some real answers several times before, with the same result. And people wonder why we're concerned about aviation. I really do hope he is just playing with paper airplanes. <:)=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), April 12, 1999.

If you just ignore Y2Kpro he might get tired of no one paying any attention to him and go away..But be careful if you piss him off to much he might spit on your hamburgers when he is flipping them at your local McDonalds...

-- PurpleDonkey (PurpleDonkey@zenmaster.com), April 12, 1999.

Four hours later........ Still waiting???????? Noticed you have posted since this thread. No ANSWERS?

-- SCOTTY (BLehman202@aol.com), April 12, 1999.

Patience Scotty lad - I had gloomer noses to tweak on other threads... 1. Do you think, the code is broken?

No. Code doesn't "break"

2. Do you think, any system has a 20-30% fault tollerance built in?

I don't know, I haven't seen "every" system.

3. Do you think, 8 or 9 cars running out of gas at the same time on a jammed freeway will cause a problem?

Depends on how wide the shoulder of the road is.

4. Do you think, a system with a 15% error rate will cause a problem?

Depends on the system, and the situation- generally no

5. Do you think, a computer can compute correctly with invalid data?

See Neil's answer...

-- Y2K Pro (2@641.com), April 12, 1999.

Y2K Amateur,

You've learned well my boy. You stand out with the best of this Administrations SPIN DOCTORS.

Lots of words, but no answers.

Thanks for not letting us down!!

Ray

-- Ray (ray@totacc.com), April 12, 1999.

ROTFLMAO... ROTFLMAO...

No. Code doesn't "break"

ROTFLMAO... Almost $1,000,000,000,000.00 Later!!!

ROTFLMAO... <:)=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), April 12, 1999.

Hi Y2K-P,

Well, we now know the extent of your knowledge about computers. Kudos to Scotty for the questions.

Code is 'broken' when it doesn't work correctly under special circumstances. All experienced programmers know this phrase.

Fault tolerance is non-existant in most systems (especially mainframes). They don't tolerate faults -- they reject or don't process them.

The industry metrics for bugs in changed and fully tested software (maintenance) is 15%. Most of the bugs are minor, some are show-stoppers. Infomagic's scenario assumes only 1% of the bugs in FIXED AND TESTED systems will be show-stoppers. (Obviously, things will be worse if not all systems are fixed and tested; but Infomagic, in his analysis, made the Pollyanna assumption that all systems -- not just critical systems -- would be fixed and tested.)

-- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moines (dtmiller@nevia.net), April 12, 1999.

I bet Y2k Prophylactic has web-tv and not even a pc.

-- Wiseguy (goy@it.gov), April 12, 1999.

Who is this y2kpro and why do you care what he thinks?

-- new (guy@on.block), April 12, 1999.

Most likely Y2K Pro has one of those shaved sides haircuts that looks like he had his head "CIRCUMSIZED!" This is why he acts like he has a p...s head.

-- aaaa (aaaa@aaaa.com), April 13, 1999.

Just because you can ask a lot of hypothetical questions doesn't mean you know anything. Ever consider that your questions are stupid?

-- duh (ask@stupid.question), April 13, 1999.

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8.)Who are the most despised and respected persons on this forum?

Despised: currently maybe Y2K Pro

8. Y2K Pro

Despised: Y2K Pro.

I despise the Y2K Pro

The biggest asshole is a tie between Y2K Prozac and Mutha Natcha.

Despised: Y2K Prole.

Despised, Y2K Pro.

Y2kPro and Norm are the most despised

people like Y2Kpro and Norm

diETeR DEspISEs aLL FOoLS

-- Wiseguy (got@it.gov), April 15, 1999.

!!!!

-- ! (!@!.!), April 15, 1999.