Your logic escapes me, Pat. The vote you proposed was for all games, all clones, and the vote was about scoring methodology. I was proposing a vote on a specific type of game, for all games of that type -- clones and originals (although to be honest, I don't think there's any mahjongg clones, and few poker ones, so it isn't even remotely similar to the first vote)(posted 9065 days ago)If you have a real reason not to want to propose the vote, like the lack of debate on this post so far, so be it. Otherwise I request again that you post a vote, and that gb9 links it to the news page. If I'm being unreasonable with this request, or missing the point, then let other MARPers speak up, but I've studied logic for years and I can't see where your synthesis is coming from.