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Response to Hyper Sports + MAME 36 Final

from Ben Jos Walbeehm (walbeehm@walbeehm.com)
Alex: No. When you play back your recording after temporarily renaming your .nv file (no, it doesn't matter what you rename it to), your score will probably be lower than the score you got when you recorded it.

Tommi: Sure, it may be fun to see other people's scores, but you already get to see most of those when playing back the recording. For people who are really good at this game, it may be fun to try to beat the other player's scores/times, but people who are not that good, will want to see their own progress, and not have to deal with records set by others.

Do you prefer that only you have to go through a little extra trouble when submitting a recording, or do you want to keep it easy on yourself but make it harder for everyone who watches your recording? I think it's unfair to make it harder on everyone else but yourself. Just like the person who submits a score should do some extra work in verifying that what he uploads is correct, he should also make sure that it is as easy as possible for others to play back his recording.

If you're really interested in .nv files, then you can always include your own in your submissions and e-mail people like Alex Weir to get a copy of theirs. However, I think that the people interested in other people's .nv files form a minority.

Almost all games in MAME are automatically reset to the status a machine that has just been turned on is in. Why should Hyper Sports be an exception.

Rules are made to be broken? We have doing our best to set rules so that the playing field is even for everyone. If you want to break rules, why not allow RLH again? Why not allow pausing again? Why not allow slowdown again? Why not allow autofire again? Etcetera. Sorry, but I think the "rules are made to be broken" statement is not a very smart one in this context.

Here's a nice "trick" that you're allowing if you don't take the score that results from a deleted/renamed .nv file: Submit a recording that has to be played back with your own .nv file, then sit back and wait for other people to submit scores with their .nv files. Take a few good recordings, play them back on your own computer without using their .nv files, and without deleting your own, thus ending up with a "better" .nv file of yourself. Then take your own old recording and resubmit it with that new .nv file. Great, isn't it? Last week I uploaded a recording and my score was 400k. Today, I upload the exact same recording, but with a different .nv file, and my score is 420k?

So if we accept the score resulting with the included .nv file, then it becomes a matter of first playing back several recordings to end up with a nice set of scores/times, and then start recording yourself. Again, you could get a higher score by using the recordings of others. This has nothing to do with the skill of the person who uploads the score. Part of his score will be a result of the skill of others.

I understand that the experts will want to score as high as possible on this game, but not requiring the .nv file to be deleted/renamed in determining the final score has way too many loopholes and opportunities for cheating to be even worth the discussion, IMO.

Cheers, Ben Jos.

(posted 9287 days ago)

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