well, there are two answers, 1 we have been playing show around sac for about a 1 1/2 years,(posted 8180 days ago)2 before then we messed around a lot and played metal songs about wrestling, so we have been "playing together" for abut 3 years
before then nate and i played in a band called Final Lap, it was a 3 pice, nate played drums, our friend Luke played the ax and did vox, and i played bass. we played one show.....dont ask!!