We used some TMAX 3200 in class over the summer. I shot mine at EI3200, developed in XTOL, and was suprised at how small the grain really was. The we shot some HIE Infrared. If you want big grain, that's the way to go! You can ignore the IR effects and use it like regular B&W film. You'll probably need to shoot a test roll to figure out the EI, and remember that any light source with lots of IR (sunlight or tungsten) will make the scene brighter.(posted 8255 days ago)I'm not sure how to get the "sooty" look.